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Author:  topshelf [ Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Need some help. Am I on the right track?

hey guys, so i'm going to make the story short so that I can get to the point.

Met this girl and her friends through a friend of mine. Got them into a club (skip line/no pay). Chatted with her a few times that night, no real mutual interest. Fast forward 1 month. Saw her again at a club, we talked for half an hour. She asked me what kind of girls i like, i replied South American. She is from Ecuador. As soon as those words came out of my mouth, she was all over my for the rest of the night. Played it cool and left after the club closed, got her number. The week after that we went to a club together. I played king of the club, saw a million of my friends, she was guarding me from other girls the whole night. We danced and had a good time. Then came end of may, she said that she was going to Ecuador for 2 month, so i took her out to dinner the night before she left, we talked for a few hours, had a good time.

She went to Ecuador for two months, came back and called me a few days later. I played it cool, told her we should meet up but that I'm busy and that I'll call her when I am free. Worked like a charm. So last weekend I was out clubbin, had a shitty night sargin but whatever, came back to my place, was about to get into bed (at 2am) and the power goes out for the whole apartment complex. Everyone left their apartments and a party ensued on the street. It was fun. I had a few beers talked to a few people and now its about 3:30am. I call this girl, tell her that i want to see her and that she need to come over. I told her the power was out and that I wanted to spend a little time with her. She came over. We sat outside and made out for about an hour. about 4:30, power comes back on, the mood is over so I tell her that she should get home. We made out for another 10 minutes. She leaves. We talk a little on the phone here and there and I started texting her everyday maybe once a day, calling her once a day. That's where i went wrong. Anyway, we had lunch last week and since then she's been acting really wierd. If she returns my text/call, its brief and alway a negative when i ask her out to dinner/club/etc... I think i got to need and now she's playing hardball. So i stopped calling/texting her since this past Thursday, planning on holding off until Wednesday of next week. Not sure whats going on. Help...?

Author:  The Maestro [ Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:46 am ]
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If you cold call a girl at 3:30 am and she comes over (especially when she knows that it is going to be dark in your place), I'm reasonably sure that she is ready to kick it up to the next level. Maybe, you disappointed/confused her when you sent her packing at 4:30 in the morning. Sometimes, I think that a lot of the newer PUAs are too busy working on their game and over play their hand.

Author:  Lefty Kirkcaldy [ Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:48 am ]
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I agree with Maestro, sometimes you need to play by the spirit of the game and not the letter.

Author:  topshelf [ Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:41 pm ]
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so how do i recover?

Author:  The Maestro [ Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:49 pm ]
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Personally, I think you were too focused on perfecting the art of PUArtisty that you didn't see the writing on the wall. To compensate, let out your inner AFC just a smidge the next time you see her and (blasphemy) apologize for not letting her stay and come up with a convincing excuse as to why you needed to get up in the morning. Once that is smoothed over, kick back into full PUA gear and this time be sure to watch for the signs and act accordingly.

Author:  SouthernCross [ Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:19 pm ]
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First off NEVER let your inner AFC out!!! NOT SLIGHTLY NOT EVER!!!
It's apparent you're afraid to escalate sexually. If a girl comes over at 3am that means "She wants some dick!!!" And she wants you to man up and give it to her. After Months of knowing her and not going further than making out. You earned the cold shoulder she's giving you right now.
If you do get another meeting with her and you get to making out or what not with her

I'm going to be Blunt in order to not miss the perfect opportunity
You're going to have to pull her draws down and whip your dick out or you're done for.....The end

Author:  Rythms [ Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:27 am ]
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Quote:
First off NEVER let your inner AFC out!!! NOT SLIGHTLY NOT EVER!!!
It's apparent you're afraid to escalate sexually. If a girl comes over at 3am that means "She wants some dick!!!" And she wants you to man up and give it to her. After Months of knowing her and not going further than making out. You earned the cold shoulder she's giving you right now.
If you do get another meeting with her and you get to making out or what not with her

I'm going to be Blunt in order to not miss the perfect opportunity
You're going to have to pull her draws down and whip your dick out or you're done for.....The end
Well said.

Author:  topshelf [ Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:30 am ]
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guys thanks for the suggestion, i take every single one of them to heart.

I think however that when i called/texted her a little to much it put the ball in her hands, so now that i am not calling her I am equalizing out a bit. I think the biggest reason as to why this happened to me is that we have hit a point in the relationship where a decision needs to be made. either her and i get more serious, or we brake it off. My plans are to call her tomorrow and tell her that I like her and that i'm done playing games with her. If she likes me back than we need to get closer but if she is unsure of her feelings towards me than i'm gonna tell her fuck it and i'm going to move on......

Author:  SouthernCross [ Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:38 am ]
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Be careful telling a girl how you feel about them it can backfire. Doing that with girl you haven't had sex with has been known to turn them off real fast. Do what you need to to get her in the mood while she's at your place or whatever. Do Not go spilling your guts on the phone about how much u like her with the way she's been acting cold towards you the past week and you calling an texting her that much its a highly dangerous move on your part. You showed her some normal average guy behaviors this past week.

Last thing
Be Alpha maintain Alpha always
Remember what it was that got her there in the first place

Author:  Apollo [ Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:40 am ]
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Also Topshelf, be careful not to develop a oneitis over this. I would just let her go and find another girl. Trying to push through a relationship where the mistake has already been made is tough. It might be easier to find a new target.

I wouldn't contact her again until she contacts you. Try to DHV her indirectly, like showing pics of you with hotter girls to her friends or on Facebook or Myspace.

Author:  The Maestro [ Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:15 am ]
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[quote="SouthernCross"]I'm going to be Blunt in order to not miss the perfect opportunity. You're going to have to pull her draws down and whip your dick out or you're done for.....The end[/quote]

The time for that came and went. He needs to build toward that again.

Author:  topshelf [ Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:51 am ]
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alright fuck it. I'm done with the chick. If she calls me im going to act really busy and post pics (as suggested on fbook with hb10s). I'm gonna let her know that who's boss. I mean shit, I'm doing her a favor by even considering a relationship with her. I'm sick of playing games with her, so until she calls me i'm not wasting any more effort with her.

Author:  Apollo [ Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:55 am ]
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Bravo to your decision.

Author:  Giacomo [ Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:19 am ]
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I will add how much lately I have seen so many guys lose girls because they fail to escalate quickly enough.
I must have replied to at least ten posts with this problem.
For everyone on this problem. ESCALATE!
That quote "If you want to lay her you have to risk losing her" or something like that?
It is so true.

Lack of escalation and escalation issues = NO SEX! EVER!!!!!

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