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Author:  TallGuy [ Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:28 am ]
Post subject:  Major sticking point - F Close
Alright so here's the deal, I'm at Uni, in a fraternity and am a decent looking guy (tall, athletic build). I generally don't have too much issue with women and many times will meet someone at a party and end having her come back to my place that night. BUT, I will always end up making out, maybe getting some clothes off, but never actually having sex. I am open to any suggestions on the issue.

Thanks,
~TallGuy
Author:  JSmooth [ Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Major sticking point - F Close
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Alright so here's the deal, I'm at Uni, in a fraternity and am a decent looking guy (tall, athletic build). I generally don't have too much issue with women and many times will meet someone at a party and end having her come back to my place that night. BUT, I will always end up making out, maybe getting some clothes off, but never actually having sex. I am open to any suggestions on the issue.

Thanks,
~TallGuy
Where exactly does the process start having problems? Is it when you're taking off her clothes, does the momentum of things slow down, are you not being aggressive enough, is she telling you stuff to slow you down?

I'll go ahead and cover a few things in advance. The first thing is that when you start escalating towards sex you don't stop or pause! Always assume "its on!" That is the first thing that you need to keep in your head. Your mindset at this point is whats going to further the interaction. When you start kissing her and getting clothes off keep going! Get her worked up by kissing the neck, ears, rubbing her through her pants, panties, etc. Another great thing is to place her hand on your erect member through your pants. This works very well!

Then at some point about half naked time to go to the bedroom. Get up take her hand and lead her there. You are a guy its your job to escalate the interaction not hers. Once you get into the bedroom well its not too bad from there just pick up where you left off kissing, taking clothes off. You do not STOP unless she says "STOP!"

Now girls will tell you last minute resistence or token resistence type stuff. Some of that may include things like, "I'm not sure we should be doing this." or "What are you doing?" things of that nature. Not the trick here is not to get bogged down in the question. If your kissing her and she says we shouldn't be doing this you just keep kissing her neck and say, "you're probably right..." but keep going. Remember you are waiting for the word STOP or NO. If you hit that brick wall then fine but until then keep going! ;)

90% of this game is mental. Hope this helps get you some ideas if not and you want to be more specific then just post back.

Jon
Author:  Jbomb [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:26 pm ]
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That's all really good advice! I have been recently with a girl and i've gotten to third a few times with her but every time she will tell me "i'm not that kind of girl" or "I like to take things slow"

to me these are similar situations where a strong mental game and sexual momentum will help.

One question I have is if you are escalating by rubbing her or fingering, and she takes your hand away without saying anything should that be considered a brick wall?
Author:  JSmooth [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:39 pm ]
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That's all really good advice! I have been recently with a girl and i've gotten to third a few times with her but every time she will tell me "i'm not that kind of girl" or "I like to take things slow"

to me these are similar situations where a strong mental game and sexual momentum will help.

One question I have is if you are escalating by rubbing her or fingering, and she takes your hand away without saying anything should that be considered a brick wall?
No, you just have to take a step back. Go back to kissing her and arrousing her by touching her breasts or some other means then try going back forward.
Author:  TallGuy [ Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:57 am ]
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Thanks for the advice. From what I've seen above I think that I have to ask what might seem like a rather elementary question to some, but how do you usually go about escalating/where do you take it? I always fear that I'm going to come off inappropriately. Thanks in advance!
Author:  Castle [ Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:36 am ]
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Most guys either show their inexperience through being too grabby and forward (i.e. very little foreplay) or being too non-commital and polite (i.e. too much safe kissing). In terms of escalation, any girl with at least a little self esteem will probably throw some kind of resistance, token or otherwise, your way way when it comes to a potential f-close.

The important thing is to not lose your cool and to keep building...women need more foreplay than us guys do. So take your time - get to know her body and her hot spots. A lot of times this involves kissing the underside of her forearm, behind her neck, inner thigh. You should brush by her major areas but never linger for too long...she doesn't want her boobs to be manhandled. Just be patient and while all this is happening make sure to continue getting the clothes off. She wants to have sex just as much as you do but doesn't want to feel cheap about it - seems reasonable, right?

Just don't apologize for your intentions...you find her attractive and want to go all the way. Unless she makes it clear that she doesn't want to...keep building.
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