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| Author: | Maximum9111 [ Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:09 am ] |
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Hey Guys Had a fairly unique situation yesterday that I was hoping you might have some ideas on. I went out with my friends from university to a club, and starting escalating with this HB7 on the dancefloor. This was an area I had trouble with, because before i came to uni, there was no clubs and no new girls where I lived. But in the last two and a bit months I have really got into pickup and can get number and kiss closes pretty easily, now, though the fuck close is a bit more tricky...its happened about four times here. I am also in a wheelchair, which can present a few challenges in this field, with regards to kino and such, but on the whole I'm pretty pleased, and a lot of that is down to you guys, so I'd like to say thanks. Back to this girl. After purely physical escalation we made out. And I would tease her, saying I hope that isnt the best she's got and she would kiss me deeper etc, I'd bring her to her knees and put her on my lap etc...so physically it was very competent, and we even had admiring whistles (which she loved) and one really jealous AMOG who kept sort of whining 'alright, that's enough', at which point about five people would shout him down. To be honest, to call him an AMOG is quite disrespectful to other AMOGs...he was definitely a Beta Male Other Guy (BMOG) This went on and it was fun. but about half an hour later she just said she needed to go and find her friend and that she'd try and come back. And I knew the problem. We had Attraction and we had Seduction (I follow Gambler's Natural model by the way, though alot of this stuff is the same ideas from different people - I like Gambler's approach though), but we were too busy kissing to establish any comfort, so of course she wasnt going to try and fuck a guy she didn't know. I realised that this could be a problem and tried to say lets go and get a drink (because we just couldnt talk on the dancefloor - being in a wheelchair makes it nigh on impossible), but she said that I should go and she'd stay right there. Considering the dance floor was down steps and I didnt really want a drink I just stayed and pretty soon we were grinding again. So my question is, what could I have done differently to build comfort without lowering her buying temperature? She obviously wasn't their to make friends if you get my drift... I definitely should have number closed but I wasn't expecting a blow out and was kind of taken aback. In a sense, how do you run a pickup starting from seduction. Any help would be really appreciated. Max |
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| Author: | Maximum9111 [ Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:00 pm ] |
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Any ideas? |
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| Author: | Maximum9111 [ Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:25 pm ] |
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Really sorry to bump guys, but thus is a fairly common issue for me and I'd love some input... If nobody replies then I won't bump again |
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| Author: | Rawky [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:26 am ] |
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I think I can kind of help with that. My game tends to happen more on the dancefloor so there is a lot more initial attraction and kino than convos. I work to start a conversation by getting close to her ear and half-whispering/talking to her. Similarly, I think you could have pulled that when she was on your lap. Did you have any kind of conversation with her? I'm thinking that would have been the perfect opportunity to start doing that. Whether you start with a routine or game or just start talking about something, I don't think it matters as long as you can turn that into a convo while you already have the kino from being in your lap. |
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| Author: | Maximum9111 [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:25 am ] |
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Thanks Rawky, I appreciate the advice - which I completely agree with and have tried to start implementing - but unfortunately I've had to put my game to rest for a few weeks as I'm back home from uni and there isn't many places to sarge in deepest darkest Devon... What sort of conversation would you recommend? The way I see it, you can keep it very sexual and keep the buying temperature sizzling, but risk not creating genuine rapport - and not many quality women are going to go home without some level of connection? Or have a rapport conversation which risks cooling her buying temperature and bringing in Buyer's Remorse or ASD. Maybe a bit of both with more sensitive kino on the deeper parts of the conversation...but difficult to do on the dancefloor with someone on your lap! |
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