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Author:  nerdyguy [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:41 am ]
Post subject:  hot tub confusion
I met a beatifull girl in our apartment's hot tub. We talked for a while, both had fun (I think...). At the end of conversation, I asked if I can invite her for dinner sometime. Her replie was yes but only as a freind and not as a date. I ofcouse said yes sure and she gave me her phone number.

Now I am totaly confused. Is there any chance to turn this relation into something romantic? I wouldn't even know what to talk about on the "as a freind" dinner, or if she really want to go or just agreed to get rid of me.

Help? :?:
Author:  loungecat [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:45 pm ]
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Dude you can TOTALLY Turn that around. You may be in the friend zone but you can still build attraction and get out. I would think it is easier to do now just because you have not known her for very long. I think it was David D. that said take her out on a mini date like shoe shopping (for you, not her) or something that wouldnt seem like a date. What ever you choose you can still run the DHV and push pull routines. The Cube is one of my favorites. There are many ways to DHV and NEG. You can act like your writing on your hand when talking to her face to face and say "note to self, never date this girl" or "way to go nerd face, your fired". You can also throw in there "Its a good thing were just friends". 8) Any one else in here please feel free to add to this.
Author:  MindFucker [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:10 pm ]
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or you just can accept it. you can try to turn her into your sex-mate but in the way she can't see it. Anyway if nothing "fuckable" can be done with her, leave her as a friend, cause girls attracts girls!
Author:  Strive [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:42 pm ]
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When you invited her for dinner was it over at your apartment? If so she threw up that friends thing a deffence so you would not think that she would just come over and sleep with you. Does not mean she wont, it's just part of the game.
Author:  loungecat [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:52 pm ]
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I agree with strive and mindfucker.
Author:  Rythms [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: hot tub confusion
Quote:
I met a beatifull girl in our apartment's hot tub. We talked for a while, both had fun (I think...). At the end of conversation, I asked if I can invite her for dinner sometime. Her replie was yes but only as a freind and not as a date. I ofcouse said yes sure and she gave me her phone number.

Now I am totaly confused. Is there any chance to turn this relation into something romantic? I wouldn't even know what to talk about on the "as a freind" dinner, or if she really want to go or just agreed to get rid of me.

Help? :?:
Your first mistake was you ASKED if you could invite her over. Some thing like

You: Hey, can I invite you over to dinner some time.


You should have said : We should do something fun sometime. Something thats not as forward. I mean we are already half naked, and I only known you 5 min. I know I'm good but I didn't know I was that good.


Or

You: (Describe the water) I love sitting in the jacuzzi after a long day's work. The water feels great. It's like 1,000 feathers caressing my skin and so warm and relaxing. It's just overwhelming nice isn't it?

Her: Yea... Your weird

You: I just really enjoy the good things( point to yourself subtly). I like to savor every moment inch by inch, second by second (subtly lick or wet your lips).

Her: That's nice

You: Well I gotta get going but we should do something together where we're not half naked. I know I know. Its a shame I have to cover this body but these guns are dangerous(then flex jokingly and close out).

I agree that cocky funny is the way to take it. Call her up and tell her you can't make dinner for a few days and suggest a non AFC casual date like bowling or the beach.
Author:  Methuselah [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:17 am ]
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Quote:
You: (Describe the water) I love sitting in the jacuzzi after a long day's work. The water feels great. It's like 1,000 feathers caressing my skin and so warm and relaxing. It's just overwhelming nice isn't it?

Her: Yea... Your weird

You: I just really enjoy the good things( point to yourself subtly). I like to savor every moment inch by inch, second by second (subtly lick or wet your lips).

Her: That's nice

You: Well I gotta get going but we should do something together where we're not half naked. I know I know. Its a shame I have to cover this body but these guns are dangerous(then flex jokingly and close out).
Don't say that. He is right in telling you that you shouldn't have been so direct with the invite. It makes you appear to anxious to either date her, get her in bed, whatever. But don't use that, ever.

As far as your current situation goes. You'll be fine, continue the dinner date plans. She could have been saying only friends as a quick defense or just really meant it at the time. Either way you can change it, because you have just met her and you have at least one date, possibly more, to change her perspective of you to more than friends.
Author:  nerdyguy [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:42 am ]
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Thanks a lot for all of your advice guys :). I will try calling her a couple of days from now. Don't want to look like I am in the rush.
Author:  Rythms [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:59 am ]
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Why not use that ever? It is full of NLP with a bit of cocky funny
Author:  ming [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:40 am ]
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rhyme -

i have to agree with meth on this one.

your lines reek of corniness (if that is a word) - '1000 feathers....'

and then you follow it up with creepiness - 'savour every moment while licking lips (this is just shit)'... CREEPY

and then you top if off with way too much cocky and not enough funny (too full on) - 'your guns....' *shaking head side to side*

hmmmmm.......
Author:  Rythms [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:39 am ]
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I'll work on that.
Author:  Methuselah [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:05 pm ]
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Bro, just because it is full of NLP doesn't make it a good thing to say. Trust me, no women find NLP loaded statements such as the one you presented particularly attractive. While it may work on some of them, the majority of the time your just going to make yourself sound like a creepy douche-bag. Steer clear. Cocky funny is more than enough in that situation.
Author:  Apollo [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:53 pm ]
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Like everyone else said, ignore the friends comment. That is just the first step of LMR. If she didn't want to get with you, she wouldn't have accepted.

When you see her next, learn to play push-pull. Through some small negs at her or find her disinteresting. Then pull her back by saying she looks good tonight or her perfume smells great. Following the compliment, sit on the other side of the table at dinner or go find something else to do than focus on her. She will come back to get more attention from you, since she will be craving it. Keep push-pulling all the way into bed. Even then, push her away with "we shouldn't do this" and walk away. Then go back to the then-confused girl and kiss her again. In the end, it not only gives you the more power, but makes her "more ready for sex", i.e. wetter. Enjoy.
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