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| Author: | Entry1 [ Fri May 11, 2007 5:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | What am I doing wrong?I'm getting #closes but... |
Opened a single set and walked her back over to a club and got to hold her hand and to buy me a soda (for getting her in). I teased a bit about this and that and practiced a few lines on her. I messed up when I didn’t get any IOI’s and didn’t build much/any rapport and then foolishly tried to kiss her. I knew in the next moment that it hadn’t been a good idea and she was by no means ready. Still it was nice to talk and touch her. I did get her # but Im not sure what to do with it. My question is when I sarge- I get #'s. I then text them this or that several days later and shit happens. Where can I improve???? |
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| Author: | Warden [ Fri May 11, 2007 10:08 am ] |
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Hey Entry, ******Apologize for long post****** I beleive your problem occurs due to the fact that you don't build rapport or a emotional connection. Try looking at cold reading because its great for this. Another tip: USE THE CUBE! lol, I can't stress it enough, it has a 100% rate of success for me. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's the version Style uses (and I use) in the annialation method (I beleive) -Envision a room -Theres a cube, where is it, how big is it, is a corner of it facing you or a side. -Theres a ladder, where is it, how tall is it -There are flowers, where are they, describe them to me, how many are there -Theres a horse, where is it, what is it doing -Theres a storm in the room, is it big/small, is it screwing shit up in the room or is it just doing nothing, blah blah. How to interpret: -Cube is what they think of themselves (ego/self confidence) -> Big cube: Look at themselves highly (ex. they're the best) -> Small cube: Low self esteem (but say it nicer to them) -> If a corner is facing you: you like to show people your interesting -> If a side is facing you: you like to keep things to yourself, not to "show off" -Ladder is ambitions in life. -> If its leaning against the cube: ambitions depends on how they're feeling -> If its not: ambitions are separated from what you think of yourself, how your feeling -> If its tall: huge ambitions -> If its short: small ambitions -Flowers are friends ->Lots of flowers: consider alot of people to be friends ->Not very many: don't consider lots of people to be friends ->Very colourful: you consider your friends to be very interesting ->Not very colourful: you don't " " " " " " ->Distance from flowers to cube: whether you like to keep your friends close or distance yourself from them -Horse is your perfect match (what you invision to be your perfect life partner) ->If its close to cube: like to keep your partner close/involved in your emotions ->If its eating the flowers: You expect your partner to replace your friends ->If its doing nothing: you invision a passive relationship... blah blah bullshit bullshit blah blah. -Storm represents problems in your life ->Big storms: when theres a problem you see it as a huge deal ->Small storms: when theres a problem you don't see it as a huge deal ->The degree of messing shit up in the room: How your problems affect all of the factors stated above. (Ex. If its fucking up your flowers, then you'll make sure your friends aware of your problems). --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This will DHV, and create great rapport being able to read someone so well. Cheers, Warden |
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| Author: | Entry1 [ Fri May 11, 2007 1:12 pm ] |
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I just sent the cube to my Blackberry so I can read it just before tryin it! Funny, one of the girls was ready to kiss me but not write back! Apparently, I can kino well (Im always trin to touch them!) but lack the rapport (hate talkin to them!). Need the most practice there... So, I figure-this cube will take about 5-10 minutes MAX to complete- What do you do after that? Do you talk about its meaning? |
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| Author: | Warden [ Fri May 11, 2007 2:11 pm ] |
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Hey, Last night I went out to this bar called Tacheles in downtown Berlin, and I was doing this thing with someone where you look at some couple or whatever in the bar and try and guess they're relationship. It seemed to work quite well where I'd explain "Hey look at how they're sitting together, ones leaning in more than the other" and blah blah, body language... blah blah. It seemed to go well, also try and root everything you do with a story to also increase your DHV. "Ex. I learned this when I was getting my degree in blah." "Its pretty cool" But remember, your not trying to lie to her, your taking your life experiences and using them in a positive way. Cheers, Warden |
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| Author: | Entry1 [ Fri May 11, 2007 2:21 pm ] |
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I'm gonna start talkin a little more freely keeping in mind the principles of DHV and what not to say. I can supplement w routines picked from pua material. Theres a lot of stuff i can talk about since I've been in bands, worked in clubs, worked as a stockbroker, started businesses, been w 25 women or so, been married, raised a daughter, etc. but I havent talked about any of it cause I felt that thats not part of sarging and may not cause attraction within her. So I've kept it limited to routines and lines from PUA. What do think about mixing material and real stuff? |
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| Author: | Warden [ Fri May 11, 2007 2:27 pm ] |
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Hey, Mixing material and real stuff is a good idea because it DHV's but you have to be very careful in what you select. For example I wouldn't tell people you've been married because it could come off to them as if your flakey I guess would be the description. So just be careful with what you say, Warden |
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