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Author:  choraumm [ Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:18 am ]
Post subject:  How to pick up a pivot?? I guess this has never happen...

I had this friend of mine ( the girl ) , she was my friend ex- girlfriend. So, during the time she was dating him, we used to hang out togheter, as friends do.
And of course, she used to help me on sarging ( she doesn't know about pick-up stuff, but I kind giver her an explaination what she was suppose to do, and what she wasn't suppose to do).

But, last year, she broke up with my friend. But we still hanging out ( only the two of us ) and she keeps helping me with sarge. ( like opening sets, introducing me to friends, this kind of stuff )...

About a week ago, it was her birthday, and she asks me to take her home after the party, cause we were at a club. I accepted of course...
But we had a little fight in the car hahah, I was trying to catch her cellphone to see her friend message, so she felt on my lap. Then we stared at each other for a while, and kiss.

I tried a 2'day, but it was a kind of strange. We were not able to talk about what happen, just a feel things of how much we liked that moment, and we don't know what's gonna happen, this kinda stuff...
She also is trying to get on college, and she has to study a lot... so there's a lot on her mind. And she says she's not willing to give her best right now. Maybe a couple of months later.

So here's the stuff: I lost part of my game, because she was very good on that ( shes a HB10 ), and now, invite her would sound like I'm just interested on her...
Or, I keep pushing her to see if we can continue, earn a girlfriend and lose the wonderful life of a pick-up-artist. ( Actually she worth it... )

What do you guys would recommend for this situation?

Author:  Ezo [ Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:07 pm ]
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Get the girl!

My opinion... Not a rule! If you think the girl is worth it then she is. The wonderful life of a PUA is not as wonderful as you may think. Of course it seems glamorous and great but most PUAs end up retiring from it and settles down with a good girl. In your case maybe sooner than later.
Do not forget that you live in your reality, you do not have to live up to the stereotypical PUA, we respect you either way.
And do not forget that when you are in a relationship you wake up every day and take the decision to stay with your girl of leave her. You are not stuck just because you start a relationship. You can leave any time.

Ezo

Author:  choraumm [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:59 pm ]
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Thanks...
I guess all those 2 years I had wrong vision of a PUA life...

All this entire time I kept pushing all the girls that want to stay for a long time with me... ( I date girls at maximum for 2 months... )...

I'm not so sure if I can pick up this girl, there's some troubles:

1) She's my best friend, maybe. So she knows all about who I am, why a use peacock, my openings, my game, whatever ( She doesn't know what a PUA is, but she knows what I do to pick up girls... )

2) She use to be my pivot for 2 years. So she saw me with a lot of girls... So she's a little bit afraid of it....

3) I didn't said this, but right now I'm in college ( it's 2h from my hometown ). And she's willing to get on college to. ( here in brazil there's a very difficult test to get on college... Because it's federal, so it's free college, with the best teachers... )
So, these things also are frightening her. The fact that I'm in college ( she knows how parties are here, and how I behave on parties... hahah ).
And the fact that she's still not on college, and have this kind of "dream".

Resuming: How should I act when the girl ALREADY know your attitudes as a PUA???
I can't use all my game on her, because she knows it... That's very confunsing and I've never been through this...
And I think I'm starting to like her too... :?

Do you have any advice for me??
What should I do?
Forget about everything I learned during these 2 years of PUA and try just to be honest, or try to improve, or use another methods? ( I particularly prefer MM, and that's the method I always use in field... )

Thank you guys, I'm really have some trouble on this...

Author:  Ezo [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:27 pm ]
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Sure she might know your routines and such... But attraction is universal. If she knows you as a high value male then there are no problems. You have flipped the preselection and social proof switches. I am sure she finds you attractive already. Tell her that among all the girls you met no one stood out. And then use the soulmate stuff to form a connection.
In order to get a girl like this you do not game... You go natural!

Ezo

Author:  Ezo [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:28 pm ]
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Oh forgot... Even if you know a girl has silicon implants you still find her boobs quite amazing right... It is the same for PUA skills.

Author:  choraumm [ Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:52 pm ]
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That's right... This analogy with the silicon girl was pretty awesome...

I think I need to act as myself. Anyway the kino scale is useful with any girl, and also I need to be patient. I'm on final tests here on college, but about 2 weeks maybe I'm gonna ask her out. Let's see what happens.

Thank you for the advices...

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