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| Author: | neo20fl [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Flaking but with good excuses (Shoudl I freeze her?) |
I am trying to setup a "date" with this girl and she hasn't been able to make it. I know her excuses are real (works, school or family) however I was wondering if I should freeze her out since she wasn't able to make 4 different days I offered. I know 100% she is not playing (she always apologize for not being able to come and feels really bad) however I don't want her to think I'm desperate or a loser so should I freeze her? I usually just text her during the week once or twice and maybe once on the week-end. Thanks |
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| Author: | Sexcellent [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:11 pm ] |
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definitely freeze her out, but i can't tell you for how long. it really depends on how strong your frame is. if she thinks you are too busy for her and probably have other things going on, or are talking to other girls, then when you freeze her out it will have a positive effect. but if she thinks you are giving up on her because you feel rejected, then freezing her out won't be as effective. regardless, the way you fix the busy/conflicting schedules problem is to contact her and make an indirect inquiry about her plans for the next week/weekend. say something like "i'm going to XXXXXX next weekend, i'm so pumped. are you doing anything exciting next weekend?". try to get the convo to a level where it's casual and natural to ask eachother what your plans for the next week/weekend are. if you do it too early, it will look AFC. but if you are running tight game, then it will come natural in the convo. when you are texting rather than calling, its very difficult to get this info without directly asking. my suggestion is to probe her in a not so direct way (like i did above) because that usually gets you the info you need, without looking too AFC. good luck. |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:03 am ] |
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Sexcellent, Very clever . . . neo, There is no such thing as a "good excuse" . . . especially for 4 fucking straight offers. You game her properly and she will MAKE her schedule work. "Dates" are serious. All sorts of bells and whistles ring in the mind of a girl when "dates" are mentioned. To her, a date is a possible offer of her punani (but at this point, she's not turned on at all). To her, a date is a contract. To her, a date is a nerve wrecking, what should I wear and say night out. To her, a date is something she needs to tell ALL her friends about. Do you really need approval from all her friends for a freaking 2 hours alone with her? So you never, ever use the word "date" (other than during the initial pick up to spark interest . . . maybe . . . with certain routines . . .) Seriously, you should have posed this question 4 proposals ago. You would have already scored a "date". For now, follow Sex's advice and dude, you MUST begin gaming other HB's. I can't stress this enough. To her, you're like the little brother who's always home. She can "play" with you any time she wants to so . . . she doesn't. Instead, she just goes out with her friends. You've GOT to be that "friend" who's always traveling the World on wild adventures so that when you're back in town, she gets pumped and clears her schedule FOR YOU. See, there is a way to frame your reality to be the "in demand guy" without traveling around the World. |
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| Author: | renegadecow [ Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:43 pm ] |
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All the previous advice is great, and I suggest you follow it. But I also want to toss in my advice since noone has mentioned it yet. Why not ask her what she is currently doing when your on the phone with her? Just call her up and chat a bit about whatever, and just say somethihng along the lines of " wait... what are you up to right now? I have a few hours to kill before I meet up with some friens of mine. Lets go grab a drink/coffie/whatever." You could also make plans for the next day. Avoid making plans with a women weeks ahead of time. It gives her time to think and come up with reasons not to be with you. Women tend to overanalize situations and giving them time to analize is a bad move! She may also forget about the plans and make other plans at the same time with someone else. |
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