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Author:  johnnyB [ Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:28 am ]
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You know what...one of the biggest mistakes I used to do was to stick too much to negs. When you "overneg" you're done. You have to be smooth when seducing a woman. I used to enjoy negging as I was always feelin like "I'm the king. I am on top right now. I have power over you." And women do enjoy this cause it shows you're not needy. It shows you're able to take the risk. It shows you don't need her otherwise you should be licking her shoes like all the other AFCs do. Now the thing is...you can't be always negging! You only neg until you reach A2 (Female to Male interest). As soon as you knew this girl wanted you you should STOP doing negs. For me Negging takes about 5min if so. It shouldn't take much more than that. Trust me...even today I still regret some great opportunities I lost cause I was too cocky, too "neggy". Know what I mean? Also a guy needs to learn to be flexible...the true PUA is not the one that knows Mystery method (or any other method) from front to back. You can't be too rigid. Seduction is NOT a science. It's an ART. And art is smooth and creative. Art expands not restricts.

The true PUA is the guy who really knows what tools to use in each situation. A guy that really knows how a woman works. What psychological/mental/physical levers and buttons he'll have to push in order to make that specific woman totally attracted to him.


The best thing is we all learn from our mistakes! You already got the hardest part which was to make her attracted to you. After that...she was so yours. If I were you I'd isolate her form the group and start kino-escalating. And soon enough you'd know when to kiss her.

But anyway...it's great to own a party! Congratulations on that!

:wink:

Author:  Luau [ Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:32 pm ]
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Yea probably just pushed to far. I don't know the neg that you used but when girls are drunk they can over exaggerate certain situations. Now you know though that sometimes dont go to far and the only thing you can do for this situation is to learn from it and remember this the next time your in a similar situation.

Author:  Dre [ Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:35 pm ]
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its a typical guy thing to get carried away with the negs.
i think guys should go for indirect negs...like girls do.
its a neg, but not really. it will stay in their mind because its not directly positive or negative. some guys forget that a neg isnt just a "temporary fuck off" statement its to mess around with some ones mind a bit.

Author:  johnnyB [ Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:12 pm ]
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That's right Dre! I completely agree with you and I just LOVE to use indirect negs. Specially when you deliver them in the offbeat like you didn't even made a great thing out of it. This way it'll go straight to her mind and hopefully stay there a little bit while she tries to understand exactly what you meant with that.

It's all about language. And as Milton Ericskon states: ambiguity causes trance. And an indirect neg is all about ambiguity, its all about indirect suggestion.

And I'm going to shut up cause when I speak about hypnosis/hypnotherapy I really get excited and I never stop to write!

Author:  Dre [ Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:08 am ]
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That's right Dre! I completely agree with you and I just LOVE to use indirect negs. Specially when you deliver them in the offbeat like you didn't even made a great thing out of it. This way it'll go straight to her mind and hopefully stay there a little bit while she tries to understand exactly what you meant with that.

It's all about language. And as Milton Ericskon states: ambiguity causes trance. And an indirect neg is all about ambiguity, its all about indirect suggestion.

And I'm going to shut up cause when I speak about hypnosis/hypnotherapy I really get excited and I never stop to write!
its ok, im into manipulation. Not too much, im not a mean person, so i dont do bad to people, but i like to create situations and see what happens, and see if im right.

my favorite thing, is controle the situation 100% but make the other person feel in controle of it. i look so inocent people would never notice it...then i get what i want 8) its so cool :lol:

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