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Author:  Chris T [ Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Weird case of LMR...
I fooled around with a girl i met over 2 years ago. We are friends and we see eachother like 3-4 times/year because she is a friends cousin.

I've never actually been able to do anything else than kiss her once when she was drunk, but now, a 4-5 days ago was the first time i met her since i started out using PUA stuff.

"Skipping boring part"

So we fooled around a bit. Made out and stuff. I wanted to take it a step further by touching her tits. But she stopped me, i push and pulled. I frooze her out and went back. I did most of the things for good over 1.5 hours and she wouldnt let me get even close to her breasts. After 1.5 hours I finally succeded.

Problem was that I had thought all of this was LMR, which is wasent... She was just very "shy" about her breasts. I took it very linear. 1. Kiss - 2. Touching her in "normal areas" - 3. Touching her breasts - 4. Touching her private area... That is why I got stuck at 3 for 1.5 h. After that 1.5 hour I finally gave up and jsut went from 2->4 and she had nothing against it. I still have problems with her letting me touch her breasts though.

Thought I would just share it with you guys, Anything similar happened to you?
Author:  Simpua [ Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:07 pm ]
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It sounds like your goal was to fondle her breasts for about 1.5 hours... were you trying to give her pleasure or satisfy your own pleasure?

This reminds me of something I read in the DiCarlo Kino Escalation Ladder (http://www.directnaturalgame.com/Techni ... adder.html).
Quote:
Touching and kissing the breasts is optional. It is not necessary, and in some cases can be detrimental to your progress. There are some women who have a negative anchor to their breasts. Inch toward their breasts and feel her reaction. If she becomes increasingly turned on, then go for it. If she starts to close down, skip the breasts until you are already having sex.
I recommend reading the KEL. From personal experience I can say that step 14 works amazingly well. ;)
Author:  TheTheory [ Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:22 pm ]
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I've not had anything like this happen to me personally; though I know of cases of it. Most likely the girl had some trouble early in life, or she could have been a late bloomer (which means she saw all her friends bud in the chest and felt jealous as well as ashamed.)
Author:  Chuckde [ Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:11 am ]
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hmm.. logically speaking dude, I gotta agree with TheTheory, I can't think of any reason why she would be of with you fingering her but not touching her breast. Maybe you could make her feel more secure about her breast by hyping them up, or whatever you think works best to help her get out of the insecurity of her breast.
Author:  Chris T [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:36 pm ]
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Hmm yeah... We f-closed 2 days after i wrote the first post and she is more at ease with her breasts now. I asked her about it and she told me that she is just VERY shy when it comes to her breasts. She told me that I have seen more of her breasts during the 5-6 days we spent together (she was visiting a cousin in my city) than her last boyfriend did. And they were together for 2 months..

To Simpua:

This was my second k-close in 8 months, so I didn't really know how to proceed. Seems I did things right afterall or she wouldn't be inviting me to come visit her nad have sex on msn right now :P

/Chris T
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