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| Author: | keakle1n [ Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | F-Close without being an asshole |
Hey everyone, I'm new to the forum and highly respect the PUA community. I'm a novice at learned game but would consider myself a natural (e.g. touchy, flirty, outgoing, etc.). I've never really had a problem attracting girls but my weaknesses lie in F-closing because I'm a really nice guy and would never coerce a girl into doing something she isn't comfortable with. Many of the girls I've had sex with were interested in LTR and that's not even on my radar at this point in life. My question is in what ways can I be open and honest with a girl about where I'm coming from (just sex, no commitment) without having to lie or manipulate the ones who want something more serious? Thanks, K |
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| Author: | KiwiPUA [ Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F-Close without being an asshole |
First of all, it is important to remember that A LOT of women actually do want just sex with no strings attached. However, these women expect YOU to set the framework that enables her to have sex with you. So you could do this by being extra flirty and avoid showing too much interest in her personal life. Just keep the flirting fun and playful and be honest about taking her home. So you could say "Come on, let's get out of here." And then proceed to walk her home. Do not ASK her for sex. Just do what you can to make it happen without having to physically pressurize her into having to do something that she is not comfortable doing. If you were a girl, how would YOU like to be seduced? Think about it! Good luck! |
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| Author: | Chief [ Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F-Close without being an asshole |
One of my main philosophies when it comes to pickup/seduction is that you never have to lie in order to get what you want. In fact, it's oftentimes easier to get what you want if you're honest. The common misconception and fear that most guys have is that it will be harder to get what they want if they're more honest. Being honest may "ruin" your chances with some girls who totally aren't looking for the same thing you're looking for, but the truth is many girls ARE looking for what you're looking for, and even MORE girls are open to the idea of experiencing whatever it is that you want to experience, even if they aren't themselves yet aware of it! Lying and manipulating just isn't necessary. You say you have no problem attracting women, right? Well, if you can ramp up the attraction like a PUA, she'll definitely be more flexible with whatever plans she originally had in terms of sex and dating in order experience something with you. You just have to be reassuring in some way that she won't regret her decision, and also make sure that she won't regret it after the fact, of course. Try being open and unapologetic with what you're looking for and what you're not looking for. You'll lose some closed-minded girls, sure, but I promise you'll be pleasantly surprised with the much better results you'll get in the long run. |
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| Author: | AlexJStevenson [ Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F-Close without being an asshole |
In short, it's not a good practice. However, if you want to do so, just try to date with a girl who just broke up with her ex. If it seems that her breakup is final, she is more likely to involve into a rebound relationship for the sake of a relationship. In this case, she doesn't expect for something big from a new relationship. She might also try to seek some sex out there. |
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| Author: | keakle1n [ Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F-Close without being an asshole |
Thanks everyone! Part of the issue I'm having with finding girls who are just DTF is the area I'm currently living in, which is dominated by conservative religion haha most of the girls have been indoctrinated since their youth to seek marriage right off the bat 
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