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she texted me wishing me a good night and thanking me for the dinner and convo.

Also the girl gets full and doesn't feel as sexy.

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Also the girl gets full and doesn't feel as sexy.

Nice point!

I agree with them. I think is difficult to get kiss in the first date (maybe I should force it more) but it looks like she really wanted it. Sometimes I think is better not to let them (the girls) think about it. I mean, I would use a sentence like the goodnight kiss in the middle of the date, trying to see how she respond. I wouldn't use it right before kiss here because I think it just increases her responsability or pression (remember that the most important fact to take care is that girls do not wanna be judge as whores and they won't do anything bitchy by themselves)

I think it's fine...

Don't read too much into it, and I hope you didn't overreact or get all pouty when she rebuffed your kiss attempt, either.

Ask her out again...

If she says yes, try again...

If she says no, you've got your answer, as to her interest level.

When was the date?

2-3 days after that... to ask her out.

You can text her whenever you feel like it.

I agree with Charles.

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she texted me wishing me a good night and thanking me for the dinner and convo.

Try scrapping the dinner-first-date with the next girls. Too much of a chance you say the wrong thing to disqualify yourself in that "interview" format. Also the girl gets full and doesn't feel as sexy.

I am NOT implying this girl did this, but often a girl will go out for an entertaining evening of dinner & drinks and then at the end of the night will end up with her badboy lover on his terms at his place. Save the dinners for girls you're having sex with.

what else would be a good date idea that doesn't seem too wasteful if things go sour?

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what else would be a good date idea that doesn't seem too wasteful if things go sour?

Wasteful is spending time with a girl who you do not click with. Best way to find girls who click is to do the date ideas in the post just above this one.

Bring a backpack with a blanket, some wine and some chocolate. Make sure you pick a hike where you can get seclusion away from the main path. Have a little picnic and make your move. If that doesn't work, well.... work on game or find someone else.

Author:	jedione [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:56 pm ]
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So I went out with this girl I've been talking to for awhile who she works at the same place I do but different depts so I don't see her that often. I used to run into her at work once in a while but just recently got her #. She's been very responsive to txts, reciprocates alternate times for dates, and even asks me to call her when I txt and she has time to talk (although I've always been the one to initiate first contact). Anyway finally managed to set up day 1, despite both us having very busy schedules and a lot going on in life. I'd say it went well, and we kept each other entertained. I escalated kino the whole time, and she allowed it. Anyway we get back to my place and park and we're still talking, and its going well. I suggest we either go inside and hang out or go for a walk, but she says she has to go soon but wants to talk for a few more mins. We actually ended up talking for awhile and I'm pretty sure she was giving me some looks, but I didn't go for the k-close in the car. After we both got out, I tell her I need to give her a goodnight kiss but she basically turned her cheek when I tried to. I then walked her to her car, we hugged, and parted ways. Right after she left, she texted me wishing me a good night and thanking me for the dinner and convo. I didn't reply till the following day, and just basically said "you're welcome." No contact since. So anyway, did I blow it? Was she just trying to be polite with that last text? Should I just move on?

Author:	CharlesFinley [ Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:56 pm ]
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I think it's fine... Don't read too much into it, and I hope you didn't overreact or get all pouty when she rebuffed your kiss attempt, either. Ask her out again... If she says yes, try again... If she says no, you've got your answer, as to her interest level.

Author:	oceanx [ Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:03 pm ]
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I agree with Charles. Quote: she texted me wishing me a good night and thanking me for the dinner and convo. Try scrapping the dinner-first-date with the next girls. Too much of a chance you say the wrong thing to disqualify yourself in that "interview" format. Also the girl gets full and doesn't feel as sexy. I am NOT implying this girl did this, but often a girl will go out for an entertaining evening of dinner & drinks and then at the end of the night will end up with her badboy lover on his terms at his place. Save the dinners for girls you're having sex with.

Author:	Kaiju [ Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:09 pm ]
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Quote: Also the girl gets full and doesn't feel as sexy. Nice point! I agree with them. I think is difficult to get kiss in the first date (maybe I should force it more) but it looks like she really wanted it. Sometimes I think is better not to let them (the girls) think about it. I mean, I would use a sentence like the goodnight kiss in the middle of the date, trying to see how she respond. I wouldn't use it right before kiss here because I think it just increases her responsability or pression (remember that the most important fact to take care is that girls do not wanna be judge as whores and they won't do anything bitchy by themselves)

Author:	breedlove465 [ Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:21 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Also the girl gets full and doesn't feel as sexy. Nice point! I agree with them. I think is difficult to get kiss in the first date (maybe I should force it more) but it looks like she really wanted it. Sometimes I think is better not to let them (the girls) think about it. I mean, I would use a sentence like the goodnight kiss in the middle of the date, trying to see how she respond. I wouldn't use it right before kiss here because I think it just increases her responsability or pression (remember that the most important fact to take care is that girls do not wanna be judge as whores and they won't do anything bitchy by themselves) In general, it's best to not wait until the end of the date for the kiss. The girl is expecting it then. You don't want to be ever other guy. If you are being flirty and fun and escalating properly, the majority of your first dates you should have kissed the girl an hour or two into it at the latest.

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Author:	jedione [ Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:09 pm ]
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Quote: I think it's fine... Don't read too much into it, and I hope you didn't overreact or get all pouty when she rebuffed your kiss attempt, either. Ask her out again... If she says yes, try again... If she says no, you've got your answer, as to her interest level. No I didn't get pouty but did cool off the escalation a bit when I walked her to her car. It's a really confusing situation because she really seemed interested, and I usually just move on if first attempt fails. How long should I wait before texting her again?

Author:	CharlesFinley [ Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:11 pm ]
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When was the date? 2-3 days after that... to ask her out. You can text her whenever you feel like it.

Author:	jedione [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:09 pm ]
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Quote: When was the date? 2-3 days after that... to ask her out. You can text her whenever you feel like it. Date was sunday, its now thursday. We used to talk about once a week, due to our busy schedules. I'm still debating whether its worth the effort pursuing and whether she's really interested, especially given all the other stuff I have going on right now.

Author:	jedione [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:12 pm ]
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Quote: I agree with Charles. Quote: she texted me wishing me a good night and thanking me for the dinner and convo. Try scrapping the dinner-first-date with the next girls. Too much of a chance you say the wrong thing to disqualify yourself in that "interview" format. Also the girl gets full and doesn't feel as sexy. I am NOT implying this girl did this, but often a girl will go out for an entertaining evening of dinner & drinks and then at the end of the night will end up with her badboy lover on his terms at his place. Save the dinners for girls you're having sex with. So based on this do you think she was just out for a free meal and nothing more? I'm really not sure what to make of that text, whether its an IOI or whether she's just being polite, that's why its so confusing. You're actually right though, I've had tons of dinner first dates which amounted to nothing, no close, and no day 2's. Overall felt like a waste. I'm just wondering what else would be a good date idea that doesn't seem too wasteful if things go sour?

Author:	CharlesFinley [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:24 pm ]
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What's a good date idea? Do you need us to hold your dick while you piss also? Drinks is a good date idea. Coffee is a good date idea. If you like her, movies at your place is golden, and easy to escalate. No I don't think she was out for the free meal. I think you're getting hung up on what people are telling you here. You should ask her out again, or you should drop it. If you don't ask her out shortly, you're going to get a big 'no' from her regardless though. You're on day 5 - I guarantee she's already thinking you aren't interested.

Author:	oceanx [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:56 pm ]
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Quote: what else would be a good date idea that doesn't seem too wasteful if things go sour? Wasteful is spending time with a girl who you do not click with. Best way to find girls who click is to do the date ideas in the post just above this one.

Author:	jedione [ Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:24 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: what else would be a good date idea that doesn't seem too wasteful if things go sour? Wasteful is spending time with a girl who you do not click with. Best way to find girls who click is to do the date ideas in the post just above this one. Good advice. I've actually been on those types of dates too. I'll shoot her a txt and see what she's up to this weekend. We'll see what her response is, if not I'll drop and move on.

Author:	jedione [ Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:14 am ]
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So I texted her today and asked her out to go hiking on sunday, just to see if she would respond and if she did, to guage her response. I honestly didn't think she would even be available or would find some excuse not to go out. But she actually agreed....so where do I take it from here? Advice on how to play this one out?

Author:	Scoria [ Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:29 am ]
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Bring a backpack with a blanket, some wine and some chocolate. Make sure you pick a hike where you can get seclusion away from the main path. Have a little picnic and make your move. If that doesn't work, well.... work on game or find someone else.

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Author:	jedione [ Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:03 am ]
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Quote: Bring a backpack with a blanket, some wine and some chocolate. Make sure you pick a hike where you can get seclusion away from the main path. Have a little picnic and make your move. If that doesn't work, well.... work on game or find someone else. Well that woulda been ideal but due to time constraints and her having to be at work later in the afternoon it was a very short trip. Anyway I might see her this weekend too....I'll see what happens, if not I'll drop.