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Author:  threadstarter [ Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:40 pm ]
Post subject:  I failed on the second date and I don't know why.

Hey guys, need some fast responses on this one so I don't repeat any mistakes with a new girl!

About a month ago I met a girl during the day, the hottest girl I have ever been with, a 10 in my book. We had an instant date where we kissed a bit. I could tell she was really hot for me. About a week later we went out again and I thought it went well, but she didn't want to see me after that.

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A few weeks later I met another girl doing daygame and it was the same deal, instadate, only this time no kiss ("not yet," she said). Tomorrow I will see her again, we are either going to the zoo or the aquarium, depending on the weather. I want to make sure I don't repeat any mistakes I might have made with the first girl. Any tips are welcome, but here is the story on the second date with the first girl:

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We met up at one of the squares in the city center. My plan was to go to a cocktail bar, but since the sun was still out, I suggested we go to the park first. She was hungry so she grabbed some food to eat at the park. We talked, she was a little bit quiet, but not too quiet. Last time we had somehow stumbled upon the topic of chocolate as an aphrodisiac, that was how I had lead into kissing -- "an experiment in the name of science." So this time I had brought a bar of chocolate to continue the experiment. She agreed and ate the whole thing. I was doing some kino, but nothing big and I mentioned that I liked the tension.

After the park we went to the cocktail bar, as planned. We sat next to each other on a couch and the kino continued, the conversation was natural and we were laughing. Kino escalated. She was asking me about my past and how long I had lived in different places. From that she figured out that I am 32 and when I asked her age, it turned out she was 21. I was an idiot and let it get a little bit awkward then. I was insecure, thinking that it might be a big surprise to her and she might be uninterested. But then I came to my senses and continued like it was nothing. My kino escalated and she was still very open. I was relieved. Eventually I said something, I honestly don't remember what, but I had my face close to hers and she went into for a kiss. We made out, talked, kino, made out, etc until I suggested we go somewhere else. We went for a beer and I let her pay this time. We sat next to each other again, talked a lot, it was very natural and I felt that she was very relaxed with me. We made out a lot at this place; we were almost having sex right there! So eventually she says that she has to work the next day and needs to go home, but that I can come with her.

So here we are at her place, and it's not long before I start making out with her and you know the rest of the story :) The thing is I had a little bit of a problem with my erection. I think I might just have been nervous because she was so hot and I felt pressure to deliver! In fact now I remember something else I said earlier which in retrospect seems like a stupid thing to have done: I had actually told her that she makes me nervous :roll: So anyway, we didn't bang very long. The foreplay was very good, but the sex itself was mediocre at best. So we just cuddled and she asked if it was her fault and I assured her that it wasn't; that this happens sometimes, there can be many reasons and it's difficult to say why. She said that honestly she was enjoying just lying there, as we were cuddling so we left it at that. When we were sleeping she didn't touch me at all, just kinda stayed to her side of the bed and I mostly stayed on mine (with my blue balls) because it's more comfortable. I didn't think much of it. The next morning I started cuddling with her again and we made out a bit. I didn't have any more condoms (she didn't know that), otherwise I might have tried again.

We had breakfast and everything seemed fine, the conversation was natural and everything. When we parted ways we kissed again and I said let's figure out about doing something together again soon and she agreed. A couple days later we exchanged a few SMSs and everything seemed fine, nothing sexy though. Maybe I dropped the ball there too. Then a few days later I tried to call her to set up our next meeting but she didn't pick up. Some hours later I got a message back about us going our own ways. When I asked her the reason, she said chemistry and age. If she had just said age I wouldn't have had a problem with it. It would have been clear and it is just a fact I can't do anything about anyway! But I really felt like besides the sex, our date went really well! What did she mean by chemistry? What did I do wrong? Was she disappointed about the sex and didn't want to say it in a way that would reveal she is a bitch? She sure seemed like a nice girl though...

Guys, what did I do wrong? Was it just the sex? Was it actually just the age and somehow she thought bring in "chemistry" would soften the blow (it did the opposite)? Or something else? I am even thinking maybe I moved too fast. Maybe I should have kept her wanting more; maybe if I really like this other girl tomorrow I should not have sex with her yet. Then again, I don't want her to feel unwanted.

Author:  The Dice [ Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I failed on the second date and I don't know why.

It's probably a combination of both.

If she wanted something more than just sex, the age difference might've been a problem. If she didn't, the fact that you couldn't have an erection might've thrown her off. She didn't act on it at first, because all her emotions from the night before were still intact, but after a while you didn't leave her 'longing for more' since you never had sex with her. This would again make her rationalize it as bad chemistry, because she either wouldn't admit to herself nor you that it was the sex(or in this case the lack of it). You could've finished her with fingering or oral however, which would've increased the likeliness of her hooking up with you again, but then again, that depends on how much effort you're willing to put into one girl.

Author:  threadstarter [ Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I failed on the second date and I don't know why.

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It's probably a combination of both.

If she wanted something more than just sex, the age difference might've been a problem. If she didn't, the fact that you couldn't have an erection might've thrown her off. She didn't act on it at first, because all her emotions from the night before were still intact, but after a while you didn't leave her 'longing for more' since you never had sex with her. This would again make her rationalize it as bad chemistry, because she either wouldn't admit to herself nor you that it was the sex(or in this case the lack of it). You could've finished her with fingering or oral however, which would've increased the likeliness of her hooking up with you again, but then again, that depends on how much effort you're willing to put into one girl.
You're probably right. As for finishing her off, I did finger her plenty and in the past I would have been happy to give oral, but isn't it risky when you don't really know her or what her pussy has been through? I don't want some fucked up thing showing up on my mouth...

Author:  The Dice [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I failed on the second date and I don't know why.

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You're probably right. As for finishing her off, I did finger her plenty and in the past I would have been happy to give oral, but isn't it risky when you don't really know her or what her pussy has been through? I don't want some fucked up thing showing up on my mouth...
Well sure, it could happen. Then again, never go down on her unless everything seems ok down there. I usually drop it even if it just smells bad (unwashed etc.), I've actually bailed out on sex aswell for just that reason. I guess (unless you're really, really unlucky) you might catch something like chlamydia in your throat. Nothing some antibiotics won't cure though.

Did she get an orgasm when you fingered her?

Author:  threadstarter [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I failed on the second date and I don't know why.

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You're probably right. As for finishing her off, I did finger her plenty and in the past I would have been happy to give oral, but isn't it risky when you don't really know her or what her pussy has been through? I don't want some fucked up thing showing up on my mouth...
Well sure, it could happen. Then again, never go down on her unless everything seems ok down there. I usually drop it even if it just smells bad (unwashed etc.), I've actually bailed out on sex aswell for just that reason. I guess (unless you're really, really unlucky) you might catch something like chlamydia in your throat. Nothing some antibiotics won't cure though.

Did she get an orgasm when you fingered her?
I don't think she did.

By the way yesterday was a disaster. I went with the other girl (the one I didn't want to fail with) to the zoo and she was so weird. She pretty much didn't speak at all unless I spoke to her. I tried to build comfort, I tried to use an inside joke/attraction thing (she still owed me a kiss because she lost a bet last time), kino, everything but she was so unresponsive it was almost like I was out with a rag doll. I didn't know what else to do. I mentioned to her that she was very quiet and that she wasn't like this last time but she just gave me excuses about not getting enough sleep and being shy. I really don't understand it. I thought she was a fun and open person last time I saw her. She seemed very excited to meet with me again. But from the moment I saw her she was just weird and totally uninterested. From the moment I saw her. Which means it can't be anything that I did! I feel like a fool for wasting my time and money with her. I feel like she just used me!

Author:  Playboi_ [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I failed on the second date and I don't know why.

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You're probably right. As for finishing her off, I did finger her plenty and in the past I would have been happy to give oral, but isn't it risky when you don't really know her or what her pussy has been through? I don't want some fucked up thing showing up on my mouth...
Well sure, it could happen. Then again, never go down on her unless everything seems ok down there. I usually drop it even if it just smells bad (unwashed etc.), I've actually bailed out on sex aswell for just that reason. I guess (unless you're really, really unlucky) you might catch something like chlamydia in your throat. Nothing some antibiotics won't cure though.

Did she get an orgasm when you fingered her?
I don't think she did.

By the way yesterday was a disaster. I went with the other girl (the one I didn't want to fail with) to the zoo and she was so weird. She pretty much didn't speak at all unless I spoke to her. I tried to build comfort, I tried to use an inside joke/attraction thing (she still owed me a kiss because she lost a bet last time), kino, everything but she was so unresponsive it was almost like I was out with a rag doll. I didn't know what else to do. I mentioned to her that she was very quiet and that she wasn't like this last time but she just gave me excuses about not getting enough sleep and being shy. I really don't understand it. I thought she was a fun and open person last time I saw her. She seemed very excited to meet with me again. But from the moment I saw her she was just weird and totally uninterested. From the moment I saw her. Which means it can't be anything that I did! I feel like a fool for wasting my time and money with her. I feel like she just used me!
Should have ended that date there and told her to bounce. Or said it was a drug so you want to get a drink and if she wants to come she is more than welcome but you are going anyway. Flex that power dude. If you were bored you should have just dropped her on the spot. You don't owe her anything, she's wasting your time . Your time is PRECIOUS!

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