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Author:  Madrabaj [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:40 am ]
Post subject:  HB10's Angry Male Friend
Hi guys,

This HB10 goes out to celebrate her bday, and decides to sit in the table next to me and my mates.

My friend automatically gets up, introduces himself to her and manages to get our tables connected.

HB10 keeps striking convo with me, and naturally, it goes well. So well that I ended up making out with her within the hour.

Shes touching me everywhere, until a guy comes over and asks to buy her a shot. Her expression when asked this question told me that his guy is/was her bf. After 5 mins of bickering in public, he joins us while suppressing his rage over me. Her behavior is much more domestic and timid now. Any interaction between her and her friend is bickering.

I end up conversing with the group more often than with only her, and at the end of the night, her friend sneaks off to give me her number. She also told her friend to tell me "It's not how it looks". For the rest of the night she was constantly giving me looks of sadness, disappointment, and even fear. Her male friend was getting angrier as the night went on.

A few days later, I text her with a good opener, but also end up steering the conversation towards meetup. She rejects, and doesnt provide a different date to meet.

Since then, any interaction has been either cut short, and now ignored.

Can you analyse this situation?

What should I have done? I think I know the answer, but any insight would be appreciated.
Is this salvageable/ is it worth salvaging?
How should I proceed?

Thanks,

Alex
Author:  DboTheHero [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: HB10's Angry Male Friend
You did a good job in my opinion, but sadly I don't think you can save this. Her boyfriend sounds like he might be controlling and he will most likely monitor her phone. Or she might even feel pangs of guilt if they had been arguing that night and then made up after.
Author:  OG_PlMP [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: HB10's Angry Male Friend
What was the text opener and how did she respond? Seems like the face to face interaction went well, but you may have messed up with the opener. Also I wouldn't have waited a couple days to send her a message. I would have done it the same night. That whole 3 day rule is BS and the girl often second guesses herself and loses any attraction she had to you. If you text the same night, your striking while the iron is hot and your more likely to get a positive response.
Author:  Mak [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: HB10's Angry Male Friend
^ mental masturbators,

Find out what she meant by "it's not what it looks like" because that's what's obviously holding her back. Figure out the obstacle is, it may be she's had a thing with that guy or whatever. Overcome this issue then go for the meetup.

"until a guy comes over and asks to buy her a shot"

^ IF that dude was her bf he wouldn't have asked to buy her a shot.
Author:  Madrabaj [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: HB10's Angry Male Friend
The opener was:

"Good Afternoon *******,

Your order for the film "Jurassic Poke" is pending.

To confirm the delivery for this title, please respond "Alexgiveittomenow" ;)

"Haha Alexgiveittomenow! Whats up?!"


I also agree that the logistics on how the message is delivered and timing is not that paramount.

He knew her friends by name, and even greeted them. I didnt hear too well what they were bickering about but she was not happy to see him come.

I think the "shot" line was a way to avoid making a scene, as he was trying to talk to her in private. Ineffective.

I am almost certain that it is a bf who she was fighting with, or an ex bf, but have never addressed the issue yet.

Any other thoughts?
Author:  Madrabaj [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: HB10's Angry Male Friend
Also, when I said goodbye to everyone, she extended her hand when I came around the table "Nice meeting you". But her face still remained in a sad state.

There is definitely a history between her and the guy.
Author:  Disco90 [ Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: HB10's Angry Male Friend
2 options the way I see it, direct cards on the table tell her you liked and want to see her again, even if that db guy doesnt like it, or next that shit. Either way the situation sounds like a migraine waiting to happen. Bottom line is its her problem to get rid of that guy, not yours. Remember to seem cool and easy going, basically the opposite of the angry guy; make it seem like it's not a chore to hang out with you.
Author:  Mattr1984 [ Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: HB10's Angry Male Friend
You gave this guy waaaay too much power in the interaction. At most her is her ex, most likely he is just some guy with a crush on her that she's not in to. How can an expression tell you that as well? It can't, only her behavior around him can. Either way, the fuck are you giving him the time of day? You were making out with her, had some guy come up and try and steal her away and she clearly wasn't happy about it.

Most likely she was pissed off that this idiot had ruined her night.

You move here is simply to neutralize the cock block and re-isolate. Or simply move her away from him. I'm assuming you we're sitting next to her at this stage? (If you weren't this is a massive error). Hold her hand, run your hand up and down her leg, and other subtle kino. Let her know you still want her and find out if this guys presence has changed anything fundamental like her wanting to sleep with you.

Do what you can to keep you and her in conversation but don't force it.

Clock blocks and angry jealous guys are part of the game. Don't see them as a block, see them as a chance to show the girl you are a boss who isn't intimidated and won't drop frame.

Finally, the text is irrelevant. If you fucked up it was the initial interaction.
Author:  Mattr1984 [ Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: HB10's Angry Male Friend
Quote:
Also, when I said goodbye to everyone, she extended her hand when I came around the table "Nice meeting you". But her face still remained in a sad state.

There is definitely a history between her and the guy.
And did you take her hand, hug her and kiss her as she said goodbye? Bet not.

Again, who gives a fuck about their history? It's irrelevant to your goal and is only an issue if you make it one. Ignore this guy, let him get angry. Haters gonna hate.
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