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| Author: | Eltino [ Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Day2 F-Close 8hrs from Meet to Lay HB 7.5 |
Met this girl in a bar, was doing some bar-game waiting for drinks but not really getting a drink, bounce from person to person. Spoke to this girl for about 2 minutes and was completely off the wall and random, she ordered me a water and I #closed. Called first time, and had 1 text to confirm the meet (1 week after #close). Day2 meet, approx 20 minutes from where she lives. All I had arranged was a coffee. (16.20) She had her purse out so I asked if she was offering to buy me a coffee (this, I though took any awkwardness away and build some comfort), we took a walk, we sat on the grass in upper Bristol area, and got physical straight away, touching her clothes, necklace, legs, wherever, just to get her used to the physicality. Meanwhile, verbally I was challenging her spontaneity. By challenging her, I framed her to be the person who could handle illogical bold moves so she would react in positive way when kiss closing, etc. I would break from kissing, and back-off transitioning into talking as usual, rinse repeat. Even at this point I was hearing “this was not what she was usually like on first dates”, and that “It was completely strange to her”, I told her that it wasn’t actually a first date it was just us enjoying time together and figuring out if we want to date each other. We got back to my car I offered a lift back to her place (19.00), went in to use the toilet (completely normal thing to request. Ref TB-J;-)) She offered me a tea, and we sat and made out for a bit, I gave her a head massage and got her extremely horny. I think that I could have F-closed at this point but may have received a lot of LMR, plus the only condom I had was in the glove box of my car...oops – not perfect! I decided to slow time it and venue change her a couple of more times. I suggested that we go out for dinner.(20.30) I had some clothes in the car so I got changed at her house and done something really ‘normal’ by ironing a shirt, I removed my t-shirt to cool off, this gave me another change to take another baby step to getting naked together, and just added to the spontaneity and purposeful-confusion. We went out for dinner and took a cocktail, then went back to hers upon which her clothes were on the floor and it was on! (12.30) Each stage/venue change throughout the night was adding to the reference experiences together and making being together seem very normal and comfortable ‘Face time = Attraction’. As the day2 went on she became more chatty and I had to do less work on the interaction. >>GOOD SHOW OF GAME • Leading throughout most of interaction • Was enthusiastic about topics when I was talking • Was completely unapologetic about discussions and actions (strong sense of purpose) • Venue changed numerous times building reference experience, taking baby steps to an objective. • Breaking up her sensitivity/seriousness by blowing raspberries on her stomach/ being stupid/making her laugh • Breaking down LMR /R with lateral thinking. >>THINGS NOT DEALT WITH • She noted that it was all very smooth and kept asking questions like, ‘do you do this with girls all the time’, ‘are you usually so forward’, ‘how many girl’s pone numbers did you get that night’.- not sure how to deal with this yet. • I still relied on some cues from her, not 100% in charge/Alpha. Throughout the whole interaction she was claiming that “this was so weird and totally not like her”, in that “this is the type of thing that she doesn’t normally do”. At the same time she would say that “this feels totally normal eating together and very comfortable”. It seemed like her logical mind would occasionally come back into play and make her realise what was happening, making her perhaps take a second thought, or ask herself if this is what she should be doing, and not doing what felt good. This is reaction to social conditioning, she has been told that making out, taking home, having sex on the first date is something that shouldn’t be done, even though her emotions are telling her something completely different, the logic of social conditioning will come back in to try to cancel out the emotional ‘go with the flow’ side of the interaction. My job is to keep her in the emotional side of the interaction. |
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| Author: | Romaniac [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day2 F-Close 8hrs from Meet to Lay HB 7.5 |
It seems like you took many good approaches, and I like the fact that you took her to many different venues.. it worked! Now to answer your questions.. What to say to when she says "you're so smooth" or "how many girls have you picked up/ been with" I always like to reply in a very james bond style. The first part, tounge in cheek, the second part james bond. First thing you say in a very exxageratedly romantic tone "Of course only you baby" While grabbing her hand, then BIG smile. IF she says "no im being serious!" and she persists? Just give her the james bond grin with a slightly raised eyebrow and quite simply, blatantly change the topic on the spot. What this does: 1. It gives her a playful romantic side of you WITHOUT the actual cornyness of it. 2. You dont make her think she is just another slut 3. You ultimately end up being the bad boy who is secretive about his sex life, (which is only exclusive to a few lucky women) and keeps her wondering what kind of catch she might be sitting on WIN WIN WIN. As far as her keeping on coming back to her church girl senses of "ohh.. maybe this is all wrong" She need s you to reassure her that it's okay. Good job champ! |
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