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| Author: | derp [ Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | trouble f-closing |
I no longer have a trouble k-closing at the end of the day 2. I am having trouble escalating to an f-close. I just don't know what I'm doing. I have f-closed before, but the girl was DTF and was a tourist. I was seeing 3 girls, and I just can't seem to bring it to the bedroom fast enough IMO. I'm taking it slow with all three girls. I mostly follow RSD stuff, so I try to just be natural and congruent to my personality, but I need some techniques to blow through this bullshit. 1st girl: Japanese HB5. Kind of chubby, but with a big rack so I'm still into her. I instadate her at the mall, slackline, won't kiss me, but we hold hands. Day 2, we make out, I caveman her, pull out her titties. Watch a movie, leave the movie on, make out, suck on her nipples, play with her pussy lips, etc. Every time I get resistance, I stop, tell her I need to cool off and go do laundry, in an attempt to freeze her out. Eventually I send her home at the end of the movie. She texts me later we shouldn't hang out because she's still thinking about her bf. D3, she has hesitation about coming to my place, but I get her there anyways, I put on music, I try to talk to her. I try to be vulnerable and ask rapport building questions like what's something embarassing about you. She says nothing, so I tell her I like to sing a lot andI sing to some of my favorite music (I'm okay and chicks kind of dig it). I then go sexual in a playful way. I bury my face in her lap and she's laughing and telling me to stop, but I tell her, no, I'm sleepy, and I'm falling asleep, etc. Shit like this. I try to make out with her but she won't. Eventually I kind of lose my cool and I'm still playful and laughing but more aggressive. I tell her I want to fuck and that I want to be her bf, other shit. She's like no, I'm still in love with my ex and I will only fuck a bf and that I'm a player, etc. I'm like, yeah I am a player. She's like, you'll fuck anyone. Just go out and fuck someone else. I'm like, no, you're right in front of me. I like you. I think I could have qualified her more. Keep in mind she's still smiling while saying all of this. Eventually I send her off again. Ugh. 2nd girl: HB5; small rack; sort of skinny; okay face. I slackline with her, kiss her on my balcony to close D2. D3 I take her to a movie, we talk. I'm vulnerable. Play some of my music and sing. We talk about past relationships, which I did with the first girl. We make out. I put my hands down her pants to feel her buttocks and when I try to go under her blouse she stops me. Cool. She told me b4 that the last time someone played with her tits, they fucked so okay. Cool. 3rd girl: HB8; Korean; I actually really like this girl. day 2, lots of kissing and holding her upper thigh with my hand as we sit. Easy flirting, etc. She never gives me any tongue, which is fine. I actually don't mind taking things slow with her, since she's hot and we have great chemistry, but I'm worried I'll hang out with her, but we'll never f-close |
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| Author: | minsok [ Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trouble f-closing |
That first girl it sounds like you totally had it on the 2nd night. I've never tried a freeze out, but it doesn't surprise me that it didn't work. Seems like it just gives a girl time to cool off and think things over and thinking is not really sexy. If she was willing to come back but would not make out, she's probably holding out to make you into a bf. I've been in this exact situation, if you're not interested in her that way, cut her loose; it's too good thing to do. 2nd, you had your hands on her ass, you know you can reach her vagina from the back? You can probably keep working on this one, there's nothing wrong with fucking after all. 3rd, sounds like she's not that into sex. Probably all you can do is find out what she likes and focus on her. I recently had a girl like this. I was aggressive and slowly escalated and she never resisted. Take your time, work on her pleasure. If you actually like her, you can do that at least, right? Don't worry about not f-closing, that's an insecurity thing. |
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