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Author:  dcr2589 [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:08 am ]
Post subject:  say's I was "too forward" now won't respond to texts

So I met this girl at a bar, I got her number and a few days later I was at her house drinking beer, watching a ball game and having a good time. At some point in the night I put my arm around her, and she seemed very receptive to it. She scooted in closer and seemed comfortable. I did somethings that could be considered forward, for example I somewhat massaged her shoulder when my arm was around her and later gave her a quick kiss. We decided to leave her place and go to my pool for a swim, but when we got to my car she said she was sorry but that I was too forward and she wasn't that kind of girl. I was somewhat taken aback and tried to explain I was not looking for someone to hook up with, that I usually am not incredibly forward, and she said she was sorry but told me to call her the next day. I called her the next day and she did not answer, I also texted her the next day saying I was sorry about being so forward and asking if she would hang out again. She has yet to respond, and I am at a loss as to what to do. The obvious answer is to forget it and move forward, she isn't interested, but we I think we really connected and the only reason things went south is my supposed forwardness. Sorry for the tl;dr post but I could really use some help here, I want a chance so she can get to know the real me. Advice?

Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:53 am ]
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So I met this girl at a bar, I got her number and a few days later I was at her house drinking beer, watching a ball game and having a good time. At some point in the night I put my arm around her, and she seemed very receptive to it. She scooted in closer and seemed comfortable. I did somethings that could be considered forward, for example I somewhat massaged her shoulder when my arm was around her and later gave her a quick kiss. We decided to leave her place and go to my pool for a swim, but when we got to my car she said she was sorry but that I was too forward and she wasn't that kind of girl. I was somewhat taken aback and tried to explain I was not looking for someone to hook up with, that I usually am not incredibly forward, and she said she was sorry but told me to call her the next day. I called her the next day and she did not answer, I also texted her the next day saying I was sorry about being so forward and asking if she would hang out again. She has yet to respond, and I am at a loss as to what to do. The obvious answer is to forget it and move forward, she isn't interested, but we I think we really connected and the only reason things went south is my supposed forwardness. Sorry for the tl;dr post but I could really use some help here, I want a chance so she can get to know the real me. Advice?

You creeped her out dude. Do better with the next one. Check this thread out and learn how to escalate kino properly.

majik-s-guide-to-kino-escalation-vt163160.html

Author:  dcr2589 [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:11 am ]
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You creeped her out dude. Do better with the next one. Check this thread out and learn how to escalate kino properly.

majik-s-guide-to-kino-escalation-vt163160.html
I didn't do anything that would be considered creepy, I read that guide and don't see where I went wrong. Regardless, I have had no problems with touching/ getting intimate with girls in the past so I don't think I did anything wrong in general. She is clearly just not as comfortable with touch as the average girl. Know that I know this, I really want to get another chance with her. Is there any way to show her I'm not just looking for a hook up and have her interested again?

Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: say's I was "too forward" now won't respond to texts

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massaged her shoulder when my arm was around her and later gave her a quick kiss.
You have to escalate into the kiss to make it feel "natural" and as if it "just happened." You created an awkward moment when you just went straight in and gave her a "quick kiss." You flipped her "ew" switch. Honestly, You're pretty much done. Try her again in a few months and see if she responds then.

Author:  dcr2589 [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: say's I was "too forward" now won't respond to texts

Any advice on how to escalate into a kiss and make it feel natural? I thought I did this but obviously something went wrong.
However, I still think part of her is still interested/curious about me. When she told me me to call her the next day I asked her "Are you just saying that or do you really want me to call you?" and she said "Yes, I really want you to call me". She also text me later that night saying, "I'm so sorry". I think she is undecided, and doesn't know what to say. I know that continuing to text/call her will not help my cause, but there has to be something I can do. We do go to the same college and have class right next door to each other during the week, so there is a good chance i will see her sometime, and i really have no idea what I would do in that situation. Maybe I am really done and just in some sad stage of denial :/ If there is anything anyone can think of let me know please... Thanks a lot

Author:  Mattr1984 [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: say's I was "too forward" now won't respond to texts

Goodness, it wasn't that you were too forward dude. You failed a shit test, an obvious one at that too. She said "you're too forward" you stepped back ask why then fucking APOLOGISED after she didnt respond!!

She says you are too forward you laugh, smile at her and say "what makes you think I like you in that way?" When you asked why, she responded and you gave her an explanation, you said you're "not that kind of guy." This just comes off as bullshit and weak. You dropped your frame, let hers take yours and you lost.

Remember you are the man, she should be HAPPY you want to hook up with her. There's no greater privilege, remember that!

You should have tested her back, teased her a bit for being so presumptuous, then if she isn't coming around just drive off and do NOT under any circumstances be the one to call her the next day.

You failed a shit test big time. Time to move on mate. Watch for them next time, hold your frame!!

Author:  dcr2589 [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:57 pm ]
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Goodness, it wasn't that you were too forward dude. You failed a shit test, an obvious one at that too. She said "you're too forward" you stepped back ask why then fucking APOLOGISED after she didnt respond!!

She says you are too forward you laugh, smile at her and say "what makes you think I like you in that way?" When you asked why, she responded and you gave her an explanation, you said you're "not that kind of guy." This just comes off as bullshit and weak. You dropped your frame, let hers take yours and you lost.

Remember you are the man, she should be HAPPY you want to hook up with her. There's no greater privilege, remember that!

You should have tested her back, teased her a bit for being so presumptuous, then if she isn't coming around just drive off and do NOT under any circumstances be the one to call her the next day.

You failed a shit test big time. Time to move on mate. Watch for them next time, hold your frame!!
It's not like a groveled and begged for her forgiveness, I just said the she had the wrong impression and I wasn't like that, which is true. Maybe I should have teased her about being presumptuous, but I was definitely caught off guard. but I am confused about you saying I shouldn't have called her. Since she told me to call her the next day, I would think not calling would just reinforce her opinion that I just looking for pussy, and that I lost interest when it became clear that wasn't happening anytime soon. Could you explain what you think I should have done instead?
The advice from my female friends has been, in my opinion, absolutely absurd. One girl suggested I have flowers delivered to her work so that she knows I am not just looking for sex. I think this would be really creepy, desperate and overbearing. Another suggestion was that I wait a week or so and then ask if she wants to talk on the phone a few times with no pressure of hanging out, so that she can get to know me better and make a decision based on that. The latter seems like an ok idea, but there is the chance she doesn't respond and then I'm just that guy who won't stop calling/texting. Basically, no two people have had the same advice on how to approach women in general, so it's hard to know what actually works.

Author:  Mattr1984 [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:34 pm ]
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I'm telling you, that's what's happened. Remember, most of what you say is body language, the way you hold yourself, your facial expression, your tone. You don't have to have grovelled. You just have to have reacted in a way that makes you lose your frame in place of hers. Your first mistake was your initial reaction.

Your second mistake was definitely calling her the next day. Yes I'm aware she asked you to, but mate you've just had a girl flip out a little bit for no reason, why reward that? So what if she thinks you are just out for sex? Let her think what she wants, only you know the truth and like I said, she should be happy that you chose to hang out with her at all. Don't call her the next day ever! Wait like a week, THEN call her. Show her you don't need her, then give her the chance to get back in your life.

Good work not taking your friends advice. My number 1 rule of all pick up is "do NOT take chick advice from chicks." Unless of course they are a stud lesbian playa haha. Whenever my female friends try give me chick advice I ask "so, how many women have you picked up and slept with?" Usually shuts them up pretty fast.

Author:  jeroenwaning [ Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:12 pm ]
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I'm telling you, that's what's happened. Remember, most of what you say is body language, the way you hold yourself, your facial expression, your tone. You don't have to have grovelled. You just have to have reacted in a way that makes you lose your frame in place of hers. Your first mistake was your initial reaction.

Your second mistake was definitely calling her the next day. Yes I'm aware she asked you to, but mate you've just had a girl flip out a little bit for no reason, why reward that? So what if she thinks you are just out for sex? Let her think what she wants, only you know the truth and like I said, she should be happy that you chose to hang out with her at all. Don't call her the next day ever! Wait like a week, THEN call her. Show her you don't need her, then give her the chance to get back in your life.

Good work not taking your friends advice. My number 1 rule of all pick up is "do NOT take chick advice from chicks." Unless of course they are a stud lesbian playa haha. Whenever my female friends try give me chick advice I ask "so, how many women have you picked up and slept with?" Usually shuts them up pretty fast.
I agree

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