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| Author: | ChimeranPanda [ Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | first date, countless IOI, failed kiss close |
Background: I'm 23, she's 34. ex-stripper but now got a few extra pounds. ergo, i'd rate her 8. Divorced. 2 kids but living away. Went out, she suggested dinner, i said i already ate. she pressed, i continued, "I'm not hungry, but i'll eat anyways." Got food. Asked me to pay, i said, "you don't have a job?" Split bill. Great kino, relentless eye contact. C&F. loves me. Walking around city centre (shops, bars, etc). Chilly, she's wearing coat (disqualifies Evolution Phase shift as i know it). Sitting down, she's putting her legs over mine, etc. One thing i noticed is she didn't hold eye contact very long when we were side by side with my arm around her. In retrospect, that's clue 1. POINT IS: so we're 2 hrs into it (long dinner), sitting on bench outdoors, played with hair, got to " Would you like to kiss me" She said, "i don't kiss" in a sultry tone almost insinuating something. said, "i didn't say you could, but it looked like you had something on your mind" etc. short freeze-out. change subject, IOI again. it was already late, she had to go home. drove me to my car, even though it was like 200 feet away. QUESTION: are there girls that just don't kiss on the first date or did i screw up? Its the second girl in 2 days that i'm on a date with and can't kiss close even with great kino. Do i have a shot at a 2nd meeting? Edit: should mention, i almost never go on dinner dates, tried to avoid it, it's boring shit. she insisted, & this one went pretty much as good as dinner could be. EDIT: i was talking with my guru afterwards, he said a good kiss-close would have been, after building rapport, & while maintaining eye contact, "What would you do if i kissed you right now." and go for it without waiting for answer. Or fill in "Lets find out." after the response. Reason, it's not a yes/no question; it's an open-ended question. And it's bold. What thinks you. Reflecting on it, now i can't get her off my mind b/c she's a challenge. It's supposed to be the other way around. Thought i could half-ass the end because i was winning the whole time. Her wanting to go inside because it was chilly really threw me off. She won the battle, but i'll win the war. |
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