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Author:  ohaiidavid [ Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:29 pm ]
Post subject:  getting numbers but not the day 2s
hey guys

so ive been dedicating the past month now to getting back into pick up,

i go out practically everyday and cold approach women (direct)

i've been noticing a pattern that's been developing with my game that i'm not sure how to get out of. At first i wouldn't get too many numbers, but I figured out the problem and I fixed what I was doing wrong, the problem right now is that I get the targets number, I would ping her with a text or phone call and wouldn't ping back.

I get a decent amount of numbers, so I ping a lot (usually couple hours after the approach). Sometimes I would get no pings back, sometimes only get text messages back, and sometimes I would get them on the phone but their always busy and "can't" talk or set up a date. Even with the numbers I believe to be extremely solid, would be flaky as well.

Am i not staying in set long enough? Am I not building enough comfort?

Words of advice would be nice
Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:25 am ]
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How long are you staying in set?

What types of things do you usually say and do?
Author:  Great-1 [ Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:27 am ]
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I'm having the EXACT SAME PROBLEM, what a wise man told me was dont push for the phone number. You ask the girl to hang out or persue a common interest and if she agrees then you ask for the phone number. You gotta build rapport after you receive the number too!
Author:  ohaiidavid [ Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:07 am ]
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i actually always establish a date first in a way.

"alright we're gonna go out for some coffee"

"alright im totally gonna take you out to go iceskating"

etc.

then i we would exchange contact info.
Author:  ohaiidavid [ Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:11 am ]
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Quote:
How long are you staying in set?

What types of things do you usually say and do?
its hard to say how long i stay in set because all sets are different for me. Sometimes I feel like i close and bail myself out too early because i want to seem like i have to go somewhere. lol

Same thing with things i say/do.

I try to lean away from routines, but my opener and my follow up is a routine that i do.

"omg, you're fckn gorgeous i had to come meet you"
"i bet you're totally used to this, walking up to cute guys at the mall and trying to flirt with them. ;)" which usually baits them to laugh

After that, i escalate kino (i have a harder time doing this during the day rather than night), and I try to bring value to myself, and push/pull.

I'm thinking i'm building too much comfort sometimes rather than actual attraction which would probably be the source of these flaky numbers.
Author:  DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:21 am ]
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It sounds like you're not doing any qualification.

You have to find out things about her that you like, and then compliment her on those things. You need to go in with the mentality that when you approach a girl, you're NOT just trying to get her number and get her on date, because she's hot. Instead, it should be that you think she's attractive and because of that, now you're going to approach her and SEE IF she's also a cool person that you would want to hangout with. And this mentality will start to show to the girl when you qualify her. It will also show that you have standards and don't just want to fuck any hot girl, because having standards is very attractive.

As far as the length of time to stay in set, ideally you would want to talk to her for like 20 or 25 minutes to really get in good and create enough comfort and show enough about your personality that would make her want to see you again. HOWEVER, a lot of times during the day, you won't be able to talk to her for that long (i.e if shes on her way to class, on break from work and has to get back to work, etc.) so, in those cases, you should try to get her to answer a LARGE qualifier.

Something like, "So, what makes Jessica (insert her name) special?"
or
"Tell me something cool about yourself."
or
"So what makes Jessica an awesome person? Why should I get to know her?"

The more hoops she jumps through (and qualification is one of the easiest hoops to make girls jump through) the more likely it is that she will answer your texts and phone calls and ultimately go on a date with you.
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