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Author:  Oneiros [ Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:  "I have a boyfriend" LMR --- solution?
I'm at uni, gaming a girl who's been very responsive. It's been my most solid, smooth game yet. I #-closed her a month ago back in our country, and we met here again.

So, first time together, we walked around the uni all day; then at night went to a club - she was grinding against me. Things got heated.

After the party, I had "forgotten my mug" earlier in her room, so I had access to her room.
Once we were in I started to kiss her, and she said -
"I've got a boyfriend."
And that she just wanted to settle in and meet new people. Because she doesn't know anyone yet.

Up to that point she never mentioned anything about a BF. On her Facebook account there's no relationship status, nor any pictures of her with any boys, period.

Thus I do believe BF=bullshit.

Her alleged BF is 300 miles away, doing military service. I told her I'm finished with that, and I'd be here for her - not AFC like, but "I'm the man who'll take care of you".

She's quite self conscious, serious girl, quite anxious to get a good reputation. I think it was lack of comfort that ruined it.

So I gave her two days of freeze-out, and last night we went out with her friends, whom I got along with.

Should I proceed with C1-C3, gain more trust of her friends and wait for her? Or is it a lost cause?
Author:  brary [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:26 am ]
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Seems like you want this girl. In that case, persist until you're 100% certain she wants out.
Author:  midlife_crysus [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:30 pm ]
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sometimes you gotta take what a woman says at a face value, sometimes she really does have a boyfriend, or sometimes like in the case of starting somewhere new, getting involved with someone isnt in her best interests.

What kind of impression does she make on her new community if she fucks you the first night?

Give her some time to know what street she lives on.
Author:  James.P [ Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:12 pm ]
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You need to frame yourself as the guy who doesn't "kiss and tell", this way she won't be concerned with the way her new community will view her. Also the boyfriend thing means NOTHING, it might even be a shit test. She's mature, even if she did have a boyfriend nobody owns her she can do whatever and whoever she wants.
Read the famous Italian play 'Cosi Fan Tutte' translated meaning 'Women are like that', women are emotional just because she has a bf doesn't mean anything, she's going to follow what her body tells her. And if your making her horny her body it telling her....YOU.

James
Author:  Ninja1992 [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:12 am ]
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I think some things from Sex God Method could help here.

She might have a boyfriend, but the situation you've managed to get into is self-explanatory - why should her boyfriend matter?

When LMR comes up, I like to say her 'good girl' is hesistant, but her 'bad girl' is gagging for D. Her logical mind is saying 'no' and her emotional mind is torn between the two ideals: having sex and being loyal to her boyfriend.

As a man you would need to engage the emotional side of her wanting to have sex with you without engaging her logical side. So you behave in a very high-emotional manner during foreplay/sex. That could be like holding her in a slow, deliberate makeout, using emotional talk which is also sexual (eg,"Baby, your pussy's so beautiful... I just wanna make it mine...). Things like that :P

I would definitely recommend reading it (Y)
Author:  pumpington [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "I have a boyfriend" LMR --- solution?
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she was grinding against me. Things got heated.
most girls don't think of dancing or flirting as cheating, some don't even consider kissing as cheating
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After the party, I had "forgotten my mug" earlier in her room, so I had access to her room.
Once we were in I started to kiss her, and she said -
"I've got a boyfriend."
this is the point she considers cheating
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And that she just wanted to settle in and meet new people. Because she doesn't know anyone yet.
this is her justification for flirting with you and leading you on
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Up to that point she never mentioned anything about a BF. On her Facebook account there's no relationship status, nor any pictures of her with any boys, period.
solution to this, next time you meet a new girl, ask her ''are you single?'', or in a group, ''so how do you all know each other?'', or think of some way out of the millions of other ways you can find out if she is single, has nothing to do with ''game'' just about screening girls so you don't waste your time on girls like this, being more clear in your intent also helps screen these girls out, as you saw as soon as you escalated to a point where she felt this is leading to a ''sexual'' place, she showed her cards because she can't justify doing this when she is unavailable
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Thus I do believe BF=bullshit.
this is interesting that you believe this, it is more likely she is attracted to you, liked the attention she was getting from you, but has a boyfriend and does not want to cheat on him, when a girl says ''I have a boyfriend'' the first time you even let her know in any way she is qualified (show interest), or within the first 5 minutes of meeting her, chances are the boyfriend is much more likely to be fake, if she waits a long time, flirts with you, and waits until you cross a certain point of escalation to tell you, way bigger chance the boyfriend is real

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Her alleged BF is 300 miles away, doing military service. I told her I'm finished with that, and I'd be here for her - not AFC like, but "I'm the man who'll take care of you".
really all you can do, tell the truth about what you want, and don't wait up for her
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She's quite self conscious, serious girl, quite anxious to get a good reputation. I think it was lack of comfort that ruined it.
more likely just has a boyfriend, probably wasn't a lack of anything, she met up with you, were your intentions clear to her when you met up? or did you have it framed as just a friendly friend get together for a fun time, instead of a, I like you and want to see you, type of thing? this can also have an impact, as if she knows you like her and is unavailable, she will be more likely to flake you when she can't proceed to escalate with you
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So I gave her two days of freeze-out, and last night we went out with her friends, whom I got along with.

Should I proceed with C1-C3, gain more trust of her friends and wait for her? Or is it a lost cause?
not a lost cause, but you should stop gaming her and move on, be normal around her, at this point she probably knows she is qualified, just let her invest if she is interested and get some good logistics, and try to go for the kiss again, but don't ''CHASE'' her to this, don't pursue her anymore, she let you know she's in a relationship, you should just respect that, and if she is giving you signs that she is interested again, call her bluff and offer up some logistics where you can get her alone, if she puts up that she is not single as an excuse, let her know it's not an issue for you and you can be discreet, and if she doesn't value her relationship then that's that, but girls with boyfriends contrary to popular belief on these forums, are usually a waste of time, and if you overly persist in pursueing her after this when she has demonstrated that she respects her boyfriend, it can come off as needy, you can try to re-frame it so that it isn't an issue for you and it's only and issue for her, but if she persists with her rationalization that it is wrong, then persisting past that point is needy

so basically, all you have to do, is forget about her, maybe once every two weeks, or one time a week, touch base and keep in touch, then when she is single, do it up again, just don't be needy to turn her off, don't focus on her too much so that she doesn't become overly comfortable and familiar with you and socalizing as friends, and meet new girls in the mean time to keep your mind off her
Author:  StarRacer [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:58 pm ]
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Don't pursue her. Sje has a boyfriend. Just keep it friendly if anything. This can get bad if you go after her.
Author:  Jacklife [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:28 am ]
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I want to know, if a girl says to you, "I have a boyfriend." How could you reply? You may reply, "Do you want a better one?" That reply is seemingly clever, but it seems cheeky, I'm afraid that it won't work in real life. What's your idea?
Author:  pumpington [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:55 am ]
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I want to know, if a girl says to you, "I have a boyfriend." How could you reply? You may reply, "Do you want a better one?" That reply is seemingly clever, but it seems cheeky, I'm afraid that it won't work in real life. What's your idea?
the fact that she even brings up ''I have a boyfriend'' is likely to either be

-her telling the truth

-she is uncomfortable with the situation and this is her autopilot response that she has used in the past to break the rapport so that guys don't continue talking with her (not nessicarily dis-interested in you, just possibly came on too strong for what she would prefer from a stranger, if this is the case this will usually happen right after meeting her, if it happens when you two are already well aquainted, this is likely not what is the problem)

-sign of dis-interest, using it to try to let you know you are dis-qualified


whats the solution to this problem? be honest

I have a boyfriend, is her passively disqualifying herself, so that she doesn't have to disqualify you, so you have to disqualify the problem to continue to escalate (qualify her so that she is aware her having a boyfriend doesn't matter)

you have to think, what are your objectives? to bang a girl with a boyfriend?, or to bang a single girl?

if it's to bang a single girl, then you just met your objectives of the set, and she screened poorly for what you were looking for, this is not the girl for you, next girl

if you want a taken girl, then all that is important is right when this happens, you disqualify the issue, you can use any boyfriend destroyer you want, it's up to you to descide what suits your personality (you don't even need something canned, just tell the truth), as it's not the words that are important, it's who you are (it's not what you say, it's how you say it, and her perception of you)

you could say something as simple as,

-that's ok, then change the subject and move forward
-doesn't bother me (then repeat what ever caused ''I have a boyfriend'')
-I don't want to be your boyfriend

or any of the millions and millions of responses on this forum (there are a shit ton for the very reason that ''what'' you say, doesn't matter all that much as long as you get your point accross that you are still ok with seeing her if she has a boyfriend)

passed that point it's up to her to descide if she is complaint and interested in that idea or not, and the phrasing of the witty line you use is not going to be the difference between her comming along or not comming along, she most likely knows if she is interested in that idea before it even got to that point (unless you haven't even been talking to her for longer then 5 minutes)
Author:  JamesWatson31 [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:30 am ]
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''I have a boyfriend''

I replied:

" I have 2 cats, a dog and a mortgage!".

It turns out she was basically done with her BF and it was a test.

She thought that line was as funny as hell and I ended up banging her for almost a year until she told me she wanted to settle down, get married and have a family etc.

Then it was bye bye.
Author:  James.P_1 [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:24 am ]
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You need to frame yourself as the guy who doesn't "kiss and tell", this way she won't be concerned with the way her new community will view her. Also the boyfriend thing means NOTHING, it might even be a shit test. She's mature, even if she did have a boyfriend nobody owns her she can do whatever and whoever she wants.
Read the famous Italian play 'Cosi Fan Tutte' translated meaning 'Women are like that', women are emotional just because she has a bf doesn't mean anything, she's going to follow what her body tells her. And if your making her horny her body it telling her....YOU.

James

I'm James.P but lost my login info so now I have this new account
Author:  Chime [ Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: "I have a boyfriend" LMR --- solution?
A.
Girl: I have a boyfriend
Me: I have a goldfish
Girl: What?!
Me: I thought we were talking about things that didn't matter

B.
Girl: I have a boyfriend
Me: What's his name?
Girl: Carl
Me: Where's Carl at right now?
Girl: He's at work
Me: What does Kevin do for a living
Girl: He's the manager at a blah blah blah
Me: I thought his name was Carl. Which is it, Kevin or Carl?
Girl: Okay, I don't really have a boyfriend.

C.
Girl: I have a boyfriend
Me: You're not a very good liar
Girl: No, I guess I'm not
Author:  Above Average91 [ Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: "I have a boyfriend" LMR --- solution?
1)---->EVEN if this a shit-test you FORGOT/SKIPPED to qualify the situation("most of the time girls could sneak away from their boyfriends while they're not around and meet boys just to "have fun" you are not one of these girls are you?)

2)---->Skipped to plan the logistics according to the situation.


3)---->WTF IS LMR? she knows she's there to be fucked you have isolated her you kissed her you had intimate moments with her she knows that she's with youy to get that cock not to eat pussy.


FAAAACTT:EVERY girl will put resistance!! she has a subconcious part of her brain which tells her how she's making it easy for you and yet she's not aware of it!! BUT YOU ARE LUCKY!! because you will learn from past failures!! Hats off on my behalf!!

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Author:  Boy Toy [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "I have a boyfriend" LMR --- solution?
try to persist through it, but if she keeps giving you resistance, find another girl

there are 1000000000 girls in this world. Dont waste your time on those that are not DTF, when there are plenty others out there that are hungry for you, and much more down to earth :)
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