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Author:  Salvation [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:30 pm ]
Post subject:  K-closing - advice wanted

Basically, I'm good at opening. My mid-game is pretty good as well. I can keep interest and use negs and DHVs pretty well. But when I sense the time is right to close I struggle to know whether to go for a k-close or just get a number.

I can read IOI pretty well but I don't want to make things awkward by going for a k-close and she pulls away. Any advice? (this is in clubs btw)

Author:  pablohernandez [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:49 pm ]
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Theres really no way to get over this other than to just man up and go for the kiss. If she pulls away just look at her like 'really? Did you just dodge a kiss from someone as hunky as me?' and carry on chatting.

Its not a big deal, you will be suprised how many girls will kiss you if you go for it.

Author:  Hammerofdawn [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:44 pm ]
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I'll assume you've built rapport, comfort and attraction and you just need that last little push.

I'd just try to come in under the radar, I'll quote a good technique from Mystery its actually quite low risk and you can handle any rejection relatively calm.

When she's in the middle of talking - interrupt her (not rudely) and say "shhh... you talk too much... do you want to kiss me?"

You'll have 4 main outcomes:-

Yes or any positive IOI's - GO FOR IT!
I dunno/Maybe... Respond "Well... lets find out - Come here" (Swallow that pride and take lead)
No Respond "Hey! I didn't say you could... you just seem to have something else on your mind" (Then progress with the rest of the interaction)
Not here - Respond "I Understand..." *with a playful smile or wink* and isolate (Move away from her her group/friends or whoever)

I know it seems nerve wrecking but you can never be 100% sure, but hope this will help :)

(I'll keep an eye out for a video on it if I can)

Author:  dukehoopz30 [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:11 am ]
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Bro,

When it comes for kiss closing the biggest thing for me to get over was the fear of rejection.... and her thinking im a bad kisser... but here is my 2 cents on how to get past it.

For me i got sick and tired of not getting kiss closes... and not getting pussy... and so i went out 1 night and just told myself im going to kiss a girl... i dont care who... how... all i know is its GOING to happen. And guess what... some girl was jamming her tongue down my throat in 30 mins. When u see IOIs... the interaction is going well... CLOSE the distance... look into her eyes... if she holds for 3 seconds.... BOOM go in. She wants you to kiss her. Thats how you have to think. SHE wants ME to KISS HER. Thats what im thinking throughout the whole interatction. U just have to GO for it.... and if she pulls away... NO BIG DEAL.... tease her... and then try again. I had a girl pull away.... I used the same routine 2 mins later.... and we made out all night long. NO DOESNT MEAN NO.... unless u accept it.

GL

Duke

Author:  Salvation [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:44 pm ]
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thanks for the advice guys... feel a lot more assured about just going for it. And if I get rejected I simply persist (but not in a needy/begging way)

Author:  necro [ Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:38 am ]
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U can use the triangulation methosd where u look at one eye than the next then her lips do this 2 or 3 times if u notice she is doing the same just say:it's ok she would probably say"mmmm... Ehh what's ok?!" u tell her"u can kiss me i want to kiss u too" and go in for the kiss. If she does not triangulate back then u will know she is not ready yet

Author:  SwagStrong [ Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:04 am ]
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Also keep close proximity and eye contact always is good.

"Go for it" mentality is big.

I'm getting pumped to go out now reading this post. Kiss close all night within 30 minutes ok maybe a little ambitious but I'll try to beat you! ahahaha #motivation

Author:  Hammerofdawn [ Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:05 pm ]
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Quote:
I'll assume you've built rapport, comfort and attraction and you just need that last little push.

I'd just try to come in under the radar, I'll quote a good technique from Mystery its actually quite low risk and you can handle any rejection relatively calm.

When she's in the middle of talking - interrupt her (not rudely) and say "shhh... you talk too much... do you want to kiss me?"

You'll have 4 main outcomes:-

Yes or any positive IOI's - GO FOR IT!
I dunno/Maybe... Respond "Well... lets find out - Come here" (Swallow that pride and take lead)
No Respond "Hey! I didn't say you could... you just seem to have something else on your mind" (Then progress with the rest of the interaction)
Not here - Respond "I Understand..." *with a playful smile or wink* and isolate (Move away from her her group/friends or whoever)

I know it seems nerve wrecking but you can never be 100% sure, but hope this will help :)
I found a video with Mystery, it isn't the same one I watched but its content is exactly the same.

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/BOYAI0N3XE0/?fr=rec1
(Skip to 57:30)

Author:  TheGreatest [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:48 am ]
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I'd juss go.for it bro. Especially in the club because pretty much. if she denys you a kiss n number nothing to worry about you'll never see her again LoL

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