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Author:  Voltaire101 [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Need advice for a hb9
Hi guys, I'm new to the forum but not the game.
On Saturday I opened about 16 sets and chatted to some nice women. I'm currently concentrating on 8's, 9's and 10's because I've recently started to tame my AA towards them. I number closed a stunning red head on Saturday, we had a great talk, and I think attraction.
I opened the set and went indirect talking to both the hb9 and her friend a hb6, I used a lot of gamblers stealth tactics and forced an IOI before I entered the set, and then small amounts of kino to begin with. I was funny and everything was natural. I had good eye contact from the eyes to the mouth and back. She was a confident girl and held my eye contact with a smile, she had been gamed before, I could feel it. I watched myself and kept my game tight, I even left mid set and opened another at the bar in front of them while getting a drink, I purposely didn't number close this set though. I don't use canned stuff so she prob didn't realise she was being gamed. There was no shit tests which I found unusual.

I had opened about 8 or 9 sets before hand and felt good, I hadn't been shot down and I had a lot of looks from the sets I had previously opened.
The new set I was in noticed, especially when one of the girls from a previous set pinched my arse, she was an 8 herself so it made me look good.
This set couldn't really have gone better to be honest, I could have ramped up the kino but I wanted to enjoy the conversation I was interested in what both had to say.

A friend said that our group was going to another bar, I said I'd follow after my drink. I finished it and asked the hb9 if she'd like to go for a drink sometime she said she'd like to, I asked her for her number and said I had to go because my very real time restraint was up. I smiled and said I enjoyed talking to both of them and left.

I sent one txt the next day at around 6 or 7 after i had finished what i had to do that day.
It read:

Me: hey trouble, did you meet any charming guys last night?
Hb9: who's this
Me: Voltaire, we met last night. I was talking to you and your friend ##### in the #####, you heavily swayed me into drinking a mojito.

Then I had no response, this is her shit test I believe. I haven't txt back, I'm not desperate and I've got other options, so I don't mind sitting on it.
I don't want to leave it too long though the set went so good and I don't want to lose the ground work I've put in.
This is the first 9 I've approached since getting out of a long term relationship, so my txt game isn't so tight, but my field game is getting up to scratch.
I'm thinking of switching to phone game on maybe Thursday or Friday and trying to lock it down, I think girls are more likely to flake on a txt rather than a phone conversation.
So critique, questions and suggestions on my next move?
Author:  Voltaire101 [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:14 pm ]
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I could do with some help on this guys. Some of you guys are geniuses at this.
Author:  kiwibro [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:03 pm ]
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I'v had this trouble before and nice opener, i use "Hey you, meet any cool, good looking guys last night?" Works a charm..esp if you text them right away after getting their number with your name

Keen in mind this was an accident
Anyways how i came out of this shit test is a sent a mass text out to a few friends and one of the girl who i sent out the text to had the same name as the girl i preiously gamed a week ago and got them mixed up

Heres how the text went
Me - Hey im having a few drinks at mine before heading out if your keen
Her - Whos this sorry
Me - Oh never mind, sorry wrong person (this was after i realised i sent the wrong text to the wrong person
Her - No seriously whos this?
Me - Its X from last sat, dont worry you probably deleted my number
Her - Oh im sorry for not repling before :(

From then on i continued to game her
Author:  Voltaire101 [ Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:51 pm ]
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I'v had this trouble before and nice opener, i use "Hey you, meet any cool, good looking guys last night?" Works a charm..esp if you text them right away after getting their number with your name

Keen in mind this was an accident
Anyways how i came out of this shit test is a sent a mass text out to a few friends and one of the girl who i sent out the text to had the same name as the girl i preiously gamed a week ago and got them mixed up

Heres how the text went
Me - Hey im having a few drinks at mine before heading out if your keen
Her - Whos this sorry
Me - Oh never mind, sorry wrong person (this was after i realised i sent the wrong text to the wrong person
Her - No seriously whos this?
Me - Its X from last sat, dont worry you probably deleted my number
Her - Oh im sorry for not repling before :(

From then on i continued to game her
Seems risky, I've done something similar before just to provoke a reaction. I then got the whole player shit test, hard to recover from without kino and eye contact. Im sure this girl has been gamed before she's too calm its making me kind of edgy.
I'm pretty sure Im gunna have to switch it up to phone game, in order to close. I hate txt game anyway. How long should I give it?
Author:  kiwibro [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:57 am ]
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Usually a week or a week and a bit
Author:  mavenspeermethod [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:06 am ]
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Ok here is the thing. You want her to have a reaction. If she reacts she has an emotion and is talking to you. Of course you want it positive but if not there are ways around it.
That being said. You wan tot text her when attraction is up if you can. Since everything is going sour. Waiting a week is not going to help. You have to do a baby step. i would of texted her and try to build attraction right away. When she is back up in attraction you should try to either go for a phone call or a go for a meet up. You want to get her back off the phone as fast as possible. If you wait a week she will forget even more that is counter productive. Hope this helps. Be strong and try new things there are more girls either way.
Author:  Voltaire101 [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:37 pm ]
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Ok here is the thing. You want her to have a reaction. If she reacts she has an emotion and is talking to you. Of course you want it positive but if not there are ways around it.
That being said. You wan tot text her when attraction is up if you can. Since everything is going sour. Waiting a week is not going to help. You have to do a baby step. i would of texted her and try to build attraction right away. When she is back up in attraction you should try to either go for a phone call or a go for a meet up. You want to get her back off the phone as fast as possible. If you wait a week she will forget even more that is counter productive. Hope this helps. Be strong and try new things there are more girls either way.
Thanks for the replies guys, I've just read them now.
I rang her at around 10, this is based on the advice of kezia from PUA Training, she recommends three to four days and to ring at around 10, so thats what I did.
I got the answer phone.
Im thinking I didn't kino enough in the original interaction, but I feel the time scale I've used to get back to her is correct.
Im not going to contact her again, theres a good chance I'll see her out again, I'll have to rebuild attraction again but I should have my alpha status intact.
I've got another girl that I met in the same evening to try a different approach on I had better kino in set too, she initiated it actually.
Im thinking leave it another day and call, see if it makes a difference.
I could do with some critique on the night as well, guys what else could I have done to prevent the flake?
Thanks for the help.
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