PUA Forum :: Need Help; Trying to Avoid LJBF

I see what you guys are saying, but let me elaborate on the part about me gaming her for two weeks:

I actually met her in one of my classes( I opened, chatted her up a bit, and number closed). Since then, she has wanted me to walk her to her dorm after class. Anyway, later that week she was telling me about a costume party that was happening that weekend and I told her I might not be able to go because I couldn't get a costume in time, so she tried to convince me to go, saying that I didn't have to wear a costume and that she wasn't going to wear one anyway. She also told me to text her when I got there. When we were at the party, we were at the bar chatting it up, she introduced me to some of her friends ( I chatted with them for a while), she shared her drink with me ( I think she was trying to get me drunk, lol), I rolled off and went to talk to some of my friends who were at the party and she followed me. One of my friends asked me (right in front of her) if she was my girlfriend, and I did CF by saying "No, this girl has just been stalking me for the whole party...I can't get rid of her". She laughed we chatted it up some more. As the party was ending, I tried to get her to come home with me but I got cock blocked by her friends, since she was their ride home. So that next week in class, she was sending me tons of IOIs (leaning in when I talk, playing with her hair, smiling even when I wasn't saying anything funny, etc.). Then, one day we were walking from class, she was telling me how she was going to go and visit her parents for the whole weekend. Then I asked her out and she said that she will come back early so that she could go out with me.

So that's the whole story. sorry it's so long but I wanted you guys to get the full gist of it. I don't know how I ended up picking the movies as our date spot, but I'll probably change it to miniature golf or something.

Author:	bdot [ Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Need Help; Trying to Avoid LJBF
So I've been gaming this girl for about two weeks, and this weekend we are going to the movies for our first date. I feel like this is basically the defining point in which direction our relationship will head, and I'm trying to avoid the LJBF zone. I know I need to do kino, negs, etc, but how do you do that at the movies? She's really sexy, so I'm not trying to #$%* this up. Your help would be much appreciated.

Author:	Locke [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:38 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Need Help; Trying to Avoid LJBF
Quote: So I've been gaming this girl for about two weeks, and this weekend we are going to the movies for our first date. I feel like this is basically the defining point in which direction our relationship will head, and I'm trying to avoid the LJBF zone. I know I need to do kino, negs, etc, but how do you do that at the movies? She's really sexy, so I'm not trying to #$%* this up. Your help would be much appreciated. AH! I just posted tons of blathering on the same topic. I might not be the right person to help, but I am in the same boat. Because of this, I can stand back and see it from my point of view on another person. Me...I need to be less emotional and more logical. Here is your problem --> You have been gaming here for a few weeks. your second problem --> A first date, two weeks too late. Have you been spending plenty of time socializing and communicating with her on the phone? Been funny, witty, and charming? I bet you were even nice a little bit. I mean, depending on if she is a girl or a woman (the mindset between the two/what they are looking for) you might be okay. But you skipped the attraction stage. I have learned so far that in order to not jump into the LJBF, you need sexual tension. Have you created any? Plus dude, you are going to a movie. Who invited who? You will have no chance to talk at the movies - that is something for after you have k or f closed and you want to build a relationship. Movies are not for stage development. I don't know what any of the real PUA's here would do, but I think you would be best off putting her aside and developing your skills more. If you are really serious about just wanting to be with her.... I suggest you pick her up saying you are going to the movies...and then just take her to an arcade and physically assist her with playing the CRANE game (haha, you get my point). Take her somewhere, ANYWHERE besides the movies or a place where talking is the only thing you can do. Hell, go and pick her up for the date (run like 30 minutes late) give her a story on why, then say that you arn't going to waste your time going back home...that she HAS to go out; if she really wanted to see a movie, take her to a video store, pick one out, then BAM you have a chance to talk, KINO, and run game.

Author:	KB [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:33 am ]
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Ya if its been two weeks then you probably have some damage control on your hands. The problem with waiting this long is she has already formed her opinion of you which you are going to need to change. Best way to do that...? KINO!

Author:	CaptinAmerica [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:19 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Need Help; Trying to Avoid LJBF
Quote: So I've been gaming this girl for about two weeks, and this weekend we are going to the movies for our first date. I know I need to do kino, negs, etc, but how do you do that at the movies? AFC says what? Says what you just posted. You are right about wanting to neg, kino, escalate, yadi yada, and no it shouldn't be done at the movies. There are tons of lists of NON AFC activities on here. bowling, laser tag, rock climbing, monopoly (my fav). After 2 weeks if she was interested at all (not sure how you met, but I'm guessing online) you have lost all momentum. If you really want to be a PUA read some more, post some good questions, and get out there and sarge. Best advice I can give ya. Hope this helps.

Author:	bdot [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:26 pm ]
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I see what you guys are saying, but let me elaborate on the part about me gaming her for two weeks: I actually met her in one of my classes( I opened, chatted her up a bit, and number closed). Since then, she has wanted me to walk her to her dorm after class. Anyway, later that week she was telling me about a costume party that was happening that weekend and I told her I might not be able to go because I couldn't get a costume in time, so she tried to convince me to go, saying that I didn't have to wear a costume and that she wasn't going to wear one anyway. She also told me to text her when I got there. When we were at the party, we were at the bar chatting it up, she introduced me to some of her friends ( I chatted with them for a while), she shared her drink with me ( I think she was trying to get me drunk, lol), I rolled off and went to talk to some of my friends who were at the party and she followed me. One of my friends asked me (right in front of her) if she was my girlfriend, and I did CF by saying "No, this girl has just been stalking me for the whole party...I can't get rid of her". She laughed we chatted it up some more. As the party was ending, I tried to get her to come home with me but I got cock blocked by her friends, since she was their ride home. So that next week in class, she was sending me tons of IOIs (leaning in when I talk, playing with her hair, smiling even when I wasn't saying anything funny, etc.). Then, one day we were walking from class, she was telling me how she was going to go and visit her parents for the whole weekend. Then I asked her out and she said that she will come back early so that she could go out with me. So that's the whole story. sorry it's so long but I wanted you guys to get the full gist of it. I don't know how I ended up picking the movies as our date spot, but I'll probably change it to miniature golf or something.

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Author:	snake [ Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:47 am ]
Post subject:	ljbf
NO NEGS! only use negs to deactivate the HB Bitchshield. Be direct, let her know how you feel by being a leader. Give her a big hug, TAKE her hand, and LEAD her wherever your going. dont go to the late show, make sure you have somewhere to bounce after the movie - After the movie, we are going to stop by blah blah blah to say hi to blah blah blah - this is a good time to isolate and let her know how you really feel

Author:	BlackBull [ Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:40 pm ]
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Bdot, dude, your fine. She likes you. As long as you dont do anything that women find unattractive, you can nail her. Just remember to stay congruent, be a fun guy, and give her the time of their life, as all girls just want to have fun. Also, to address everyone else, it doesn't matter where you take the girl. Movies, Bowl-o-rama, even a strip club, if you do what your supposed to do, she wont give a shit. She's looking for YOU to be original, NOT the date. If YOU'RE original, the DATE is original.

Author:	FrequentFlyerCA [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:31 am ]
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Quote: I see what you guys are saying, but let me elaborate on the part about me gaming her for two weeks: I actually met her in one of my classes( I opened, chatted her up a bit, and number closed). Since then, she has wanted me to walk her to her dorm after class. Anyway, later that week she was telling me about a costume party that was happening that weekend and I told her I might not be able to go because I couldn't get a costume in time, so she tried to convince me to go, saying that I didn't have to wear a costume and that she wasn't going to wear one anyway. She also told me to text her when I got there. When we were at the party, we were at the bar chatting it up, she introduced me to some of her friends ( I chatted with them for a while), she shared her drink with me ( I think she was trying to get me drunk, lol), I rolled off and went to talk to some of my friends who were at the party and she followed me. One of my friends asked me (right in front of her) if she was my girlfriend, and I did CF by saying "No, this girl has just been stalking me for the whole party...I can't get rid of her". She laughed we chatted it up some more. As the party was ending, I tried to get her to come home with me but I got cock blocked by her friends, since she was their ride home. So that next week in class, she was sending me tons of IOIs (leaning in when I talk, playing with her hair, smiling even when I wasn't saying anything funny, etc.). Then, one day we were walking from class, she was telling me how she was going to go and visit her parents for the whole weekend. Then I asked her out and she said that she will come back early so that she could go out with me. So that's the whole story. sorry it's so long but I wanted you guys to get the full gist of it. I don't know how I ended up picking the movies as our date spot, but I'll probably change it to miniature golf or something. After reading this, I believe there is hope for you. I would have tried to move in at least for a kiss all of those times walking her to her dorm (Then again, I wasnt there so it could have been an awkward situation). Anyways, you should make your move pretty soon and let her know that you arent looking to be her shoulder to cry on. Just be you. Stay calm and relaxed and stay in control. Anything you do with her, you need to be the first to make the move. Good luck!

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