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| Author: | cspears01 [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | new opener |
hey i got a new opener so i thought id see what you guys thought of it. this is ment for places with alot of ppl and a wing me. hey im a pickup artist and dont worry im not trying to pick you up im watching my student (point to a wing or guy surrounded by women) i thought standing here talking to you guys would be better then leaning up against the bar like that guy( point to afc leaned up against bar)(then body rock as if watching students) i would from there use best friend routine or stack openers... you could possible get away with bodyrocking alot as if checking on students and also use that as a FTC... you could also throw in a neg such as "your lucky it cost most ppl 100$ to spend this much time with me"... or have wing come up and give you value |
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| Author: | cspears01 [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | how i got this |
i got this opener from my friend that hasnt been gaming as long as i have would start explaning game to girls and then call me over cause i knew more about it than he would... and all you guys are prolly thinking about how bad of a idea that would be but if you know your shit it works surprisingly well ive never had it go bad... except the first time because he when he ask me about game in front of a bunch of girls i had that dear in a headlight look and didnt know what to say |
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| Author: | 0uch [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:05 pm ] |
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only problem is, pretty much any opener can work. Question is, how is your closing rate? |
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| Author: | cspears01 [ Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:13 pm ] |
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It's decent but at parties or clubs but it's lower at everyday pickup, and with that opener you already got a neg in and you give yourself higher value so it'd make it easier to get through A1 and you already demonstrated value so you wouldn't have to spend so long on A2 and kino escalate faster cause you've already established value |
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| Author: | Jay dog [ Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:33 pm ] |
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I don't know, some girls are going to find it weird but it seems fine. However where will it go after? how are you gonna get her number? she's gonna be like "oh i thought you're not trying to pick me up or whatever" |
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| Author: | cspears01 [ Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:07 pm ] |
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If it was a two set id probably run the best friends test routine( the one that Style uses in his book) if not and it was a mixed set I would open the guy with something such "hey man to man what you do in this situation..." and neg and kino the target "and run the bullshit baffles brains kino routine" done by 26... And I really don't worry about a number close too much cause if you run a set right she will most likely ask you for your phone number or put hers in her phone... For isolation I would probably throw tell her "come on let's go talk to some of my students" and use the mystery arm and arm routine... And of course throwing in "so how do y'all know eachother" before I try to isolate.... But that's just what I would do |
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| Author: | cspears01 [ Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:16 pm ] |
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But this opener takes more confidence and cockiness that their lucky that you decided to come over to their set and to be thankful or you can wall off at anytime |
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| Author: | Energy_ [ Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:45 pm ] |
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With all the subject to choose from, you go for "Im a PUA-teacher". Im not trying to be an asshole here, but this is phase. Everyone who learns a bit about the game, and who starts to think that they are 'getting it' will talk about it. I did. I've heard other guys do it. But then.. we all STOP. Why do they all stop? Its like telling your mom how you sneak out at night, like telling your teacher how you are cheating when he gives tests You just dont do it. But still, its a very intresting topic and since you probably will keep talking about (despite some asshole called 'Energy_' told you not to) I'll give you a really good tip: CHANGE THE LABLE. Talk about Psychology instead and how you are fascinated by it. Give examples of how 'people in general' act and behave in diffrent situations, why girls feel bad after fucking a dude she just met, why people have shields etc. Dont tell girls you are at the mall teaching guys methods to score with chicks. |
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| Author: | cspears01 [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:49 am ] |
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I get what your saying... That's not being a asshole at all it's helping out eachother with the same goal... So thanks for the advice |
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| Author: | Ay-Jay [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:25 pm ] |
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Sounds like a bad idea, you're supposed to make them lower their guard (hence the reason ppl use negs / iods). Coming in and saying I'm a pick up artist will surely set off alarm bells in their heads? :S |
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