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| Author: | Datguy [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | I might be going too fast. |
Seems to me i might be doing things a bit too direct. I try to open and close quite fast, almost in one hit. You might say a pro can do that with no prob but i'm obviously no pro. I guess i'm not building enough attraction, and when i try to go for the date setup (i prefer to go for this instead of just the phone) i usually get shut down by either "i have a boyfriend" or something along those lines. |
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| Author: | 0uch [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:13 am ] |
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One of my biggest issue was that I stuck in "attraction" too long. As fun as the attraction stage is, once you start getting IOI, u need to move to comfort. After comfort and you feel like you know the girl and she knows you, you get number close or either pull. Depends on the logistics. Bottom line, get to comfort first before number closing to reduce flakes or increase the chances of you pulling,. |
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| Author: | jazz25 [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:15 am ] |
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your probably doing alot better then you think you are. Opening fast and closing fast means that you will get less flakes and 99% of closes are girls that are up for dating/ interested in you. The longer you take to close a girl from a cold approach, the more you put her in a seductive state.. all though she gives you her number after a 10 minute conversation, when you call her she's not going to be in that state and will most likely flake. (Alot of this depends on the impression you made) Gurus trick guys and mislead them into thinking that they are doing better by avoiding awkward silences, and talking for a long time. Unless you can really make an amazing impression, less work and fast closing is always better. Seduction is a numbers game you have to be able to handle rejection and understand that the faster you move the more results you will get. EDIT: urgh I really do hate over analysing shit |
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| Author: | Datguy [ Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:53 am ] |
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Thanks for the input, i guess i have to be diverse in my approaches. If i can find a good hook to build a longer conversation that's fine with me, but without dragging the whole thing. In other words, finding a balance between the quantity of the conversation and the quality. As for fear of rejection, i'm slowly but safely moving out of that area. All the girls i tried to close fast that didn't work out always ended up with a smile in their faces, and not really looking uncomfortable at all. Even when they told me they had a boyfriend they looked surprised, in a good way i think, by my direct approach. |
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