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Author:  PlayHer Man [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:25 am ]
Post subject:  Amazing Daygame Opener AND Closer that can work ANYWHERE
I just came up with this yesterday and I'd like some opinions. I tried it on two girls and got good results. So basically you approach a girl anywhere during the day.. street, store, supermarket, etc. with:

YOU: "Excuse me.. I need help with two quick things... do you have a second?"

GIRL: "Sure" (Or whatever she says) most women like to help.

YOU: Ok.. I need to find a good Sushi place. I'm really craving it. Do you know any in the area?

GIRL: "Yes / No" (Whatever she says)

YOU: Thanks... whats your name btw?

GIRL: "Name"

YOU: "Ok I need to ask you for one more thing (insert name)... Your number so I can convince you to grab coffee with me sometime :)"

If you do this in a playful way its GOLD. The best thing about it is the speed. You can get a number in less than a minute of convo. If you get resistance because of the speed just tease her with "I'm starving thats why I can't stick around to chat"

I need to test it on more girls but so far its working.
Author:  Habitual Jerk [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:12 am ]
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Lol, cool. Let us know how it goes.
Author:  ajaxluka [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:05 am ]
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Practice makes perfect, a variation might even be fun. If she's alone try to get her to come along saying something like:

YOU: "Excuse me.. I need help with two quick things... do you have a second?"

GIRL: "Sure" (Or whatever she says) most women like to help.

YOU: Ok.. I need to find a good Sushi place. I'm really craving it. Do you know any in the area?

GIRL:

YOU: Thanks. You move your body as if you walk away, look back at her and say:
Hey, you seem pretty cool you should join me. (Notice how you compliment her mildly and do not ask her to join you, you tell her she should).

Advantage you have here is that you will have an instant date (provided the sushi bar isn't to far away) in on the best places to have a date. Also you actually get to eat sushi. From here on out you can play your game.
Author:  Brny Stnsn [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:27 pm ]
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Instant date is better than any number every day, wonder it it would work.
Author:  PlayHer Man [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:57 am ]
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Instant date is better than any number every day, wonder it it would work.
I think it can work. "ajaxuka" made a good point above with trying to get an instant date out of it. Another way to do it is to say:

"I've never been to that restaurant. You know.. its a nice day... lets walk over there together and you can show me where it is." (Then you game her while you walk!)

If she rejects the offer you can always close with: "Well if the food is bad I'm blaming you (neg). Let me have your number and if I like the food I'll repay you with a lunch date :)"
Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:28 pm ]
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How many of the girls you closed this way have actually met you for a day 2?

I bet 99% of them flaked.

Asking for a number that early is pointless. A number doesn't mean anything, it's just a bridge for a day 2. If you don't build any rapport or comfort, find commonalities, or establish a REASON to meet next time, she has invested nothing and will not see you again.

It's a better idea to either stick around enough to actually make a connection, and then n-close, or do an insta-date*

*NB Insta-dates during the day RARELY lead to sex.
Author:  PlayHer Man [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:53 pm ]
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How many of the girls you closed this way have actually met you for a day 2?

I bet 99% of them flaked.

Asking for a number that early is pointless. A number doesn't mean anything, it's just a bridge for a day 2. If you don't build any rapport or comfort, find commonalities, or establish a REASON to meet next time, she has invested nothing and will not see you again.

It's a better idea to either stick around enough to actually make a connection, and then n-close, or do an insta-date*

*NB Insta-dates during the day RARELY lead to sex.
I started this on Sunday and so far I collected 6 numbers. I already met up with one girl and only 2 of the other 5 didn't respond to my texts.

I know where you are coming from but I totally disagree with most of what you said and I'll explain why:

Regarding "a number means nothing" you can say the same about a 30 minute conversation. If you talk to her for 30 minutes and don't get her number you have nothing. The number definitely means something.

Regarding sticking around to "make a connection" thats also false. I call it "sticking around to fuck things up". Having a long conversation is not an "investment". I talk to strangers all the time, then walk away and forget they exist. Talking longer is useless and in many cases it hurts you. Its better you walk away and leave her thinking "who was that guy?" let her imagination wonder about who you are, how interested you are in her and if you will call her again.

It leaves so much in the air. It also DHV because you basically come off like: "I have nothing to prove to you... take me or leave me". It also gives you more to talk about when you text her and when you meet her for day 2.

Look at it this way... The less time you spend getting numbers.. the more numbers you get. You are investing less time and energy. The more numbers you get.. the less you have to worry about "flaking". 30 minutes to get one number vs. 30 minutes to get 20 numbers. Do the math.

But I still understand what you are trying to say. Just hasn't been my experience.
Author:  Riott [ Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:40 pm ]
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A number doesn't mean anything, it's just a bridge for a day 2. If you don't build any rapport or comfort, find commonalities, or establish a REASON to meet next time, she has invested nothing and will not see you again.
This.^

Most flaking occurs when you fail to establish a reason for why you are meeting, as well as qualification. If you don't give a girl a reason why you like her, when you call or text more likely than not she's going to wonder what this guy wants. Where as you qualify her and find commonalities she will think, "Oh yeah, this guy wants to meet up because we have X in common."

Where as failing to do might have something like this, "Oh yeah, this guy is calling because I have a vagina and he wants to fuck me. No thanks."
Author:  Dias4Flac [ Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:59 am ]
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How many of the girls you closed this way have actually met you for a day 2?

I bet 99% of them flaked.

Asking for a number that early is pointless. A number doesn't mean anything, it's just a bridge for a day 2. If you don't build any rapport or comfort, find commonalities, or establish a REASON to meet next time, she has invested nothing and will not see you again.

It's a better idea to either stick around enough to actually make a connection, and then n-close, or do an insta-date*

*NB Insta-dates during the day RARELY lead to sex.
I'm going with what you said I talk to tons of girls and flaking is something I get 99% of the time and even when I get the number I get 0 reply.

Tell me do you mean by "insta-date"? could you explain this better sorry to be a noob but I'm new to this site and the slang you guys use in general but I'd really like to improve myself with girls.
Author:  Riott [ Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:58 am ]
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Instant date refers to when you meet a girl and you get her from the place where you met to go out with you right then and there.

Example- you meet a girl at the grocery store and you both go to get coffee directly after meeting.
Author:  PlayHer Man [ Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:11 pm ]
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A number doesn't mean anything, it's just a bridge for a day 2. If you don't build any rapport or comfort, find commonalities, or establish a REASON to meet next time, she has invested nothing and will not see you again.
This.^

Most flaking occurs when you fail to establish a reason for why you are meeting, as well as qualification. If you don't give a girl a reason why you like her, when you call or text more likely than not she's going to wonder what this guy wants. Where as you qualify her and find commonalities she will think, "Oh yeah, this guy wants to meet up because we have X in common."

Where as failing to do might have something like this, "Oh yeah, this guy is calling because I have a vagina and he wants to fuck me. No thanks."
Most girls are not that stupid to think you are calling them to be their "friend". And if thats what she thinks.. then you're fucked anyway.

Why else would a guy approach a women other than because he wants to fuck her? And what makes you think women don't want to fuck men too? They do.

I still see no difference in the results I get talking longer vs. shorter. If attraction is there she will not flake. She will respond to your texts.
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