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| Author: | ajaxluka [ Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Wingman |
Hello, Friend of mine and myself have sought and found lots of openers one of which I'd like to share with you. It goes like this: You and you wingman are at a bar and you see a group of girls. Your friend strikes up a conversation with one or more of the girls and he than singles out one girl he will continue his conversation with (this is easiest with 2 girls). Now it depends on where you are how you will react to this. If there's space next to your target walk with your friend and stand next to her but don't make contact. You may look at your friend or anywhere else in the room. If there isn't space, wait, don't look at your friend until it's time to get in. It doesn't matter what the opener for your wingman is about as long as he has the attention the girl(s) and enough to talk about for a few minutes. After 20-30 seconds into the conversation of your friend you walk up to your target (if you are already there just ask) ask your target 'annoying isn't it, when your friend gets picked up?'. Now here comes the part where you really need to listen to what she says and see how she responds to you. She might say 'no' but still want you to go on with the conversation. Example: You: Annoying isn't it, when your friend gets picked up? Her: No. You: No? Her: No, I don't mind. You: Why is that? Her: Continue the conversation and do what you'd regularly do when talking to a target. You: Annoying isn't it, when your friend gets picked up? Her: Yes, it is (smiling or laughing happens a lot, which is a good sign especially in reaction to an opener). You: I agree, you see that's my friend over there (point to your wingman), he gets picked up all the time by girls (this is nice to get over the first bump of the conversation and to get it flowing). Her: Oh really, how's that? From her on out you make conversation with her on whatever you find suitable. After you have a conversation going on for about 5-10 minutes you and your wingman look at each other and he or you might make a hand gesture as if he/you want to go get a drink or smoke a cigarette. You tell her what you are up to, that you had a great time talking to her and then you may go for the phone number or choose not to, whatever you are comfortable with at that moment. Now the thing with this opener is that it is easy for you to do and it seems innocent to your target. On top of that it opens up to a whole lot of topics you can talk about. The only thing is that the opener can be quite hard to pull off for the one that goes in first. So if you are a beginner in picking up this is great if you have a more experienced wingman to back you up. You may not only learn from him, but you will also get a lot of field experience. Cheers, Luka |
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| Author: | Keksman [ Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:35 pm ] |
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I've actually used a variation on this (without help of a wing) and it's worked like a charm: Keks: Looks like you have just become the third wheel HB: (smiles) yea, blah blah Keks: (with a huge grin or a very fake serious face) How rude of your friend to just ditch you You can also neg her a bit, saying she must not be important or not good company...I don't remember what I actually say, but something among those lines. I just don't like talking about PU while I'm doing it. That can raise defenses and ruin the flow of the whole interaction. It doesn't even help with frame... Another good thing is, if her friend isn't being picked up, your target will say he's a friend and introduce you to the group. Then you can game the set as usual. |
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