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Author:  Newb987 [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:46 pm ]
Post subject:  what to do now after a text opener
im trying this on this girl (saw this on this forum btw)

How to you keep a blonde girl in suspence (blonde can be anything)
Her: lol... i dont know you tell me??

After you receive her response, DO NOT REPLY. Ive gotten pretty much every imaginable response from girls ranging from "i dont know how??", which is easy to play off; and other ones where i desperately wanted to reply right away "ooohh wow wouldnt you like to know, id tell you but then id have to kill ya "

Again, DO NOT reply right away. Give it at least a day (more time for more effect) and then just reply with:


Thats how

Ive also gotten a few smart girls who figured it out a few hours later in which case they 'won' and i in turn showed them i liked that 'Wow, you didnt fall for it, i like that. What else do you have going for you besides your brains?'

the reply i got was i dont know if this is a joke or if your actually asking me lol xxx

what should i reply if at all.
Author:  RedSkwirl [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:20 pm ]
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It doesn't really matter what you say or do, as long as you are confident with what you are saying. Neg her not answering the question, "apparently I was wrong..." or something like that.

Honestly though, stay away from text game. Coming from personal experience, I have been text gaming for the last year hardcore. It's really easy to talk to girls that way since you don't have to respond right away and you can think about what you want to say. I have been able to get girls to the point where we would be having sex if we were having the conversation in person. But, it's really fucking awkward when you actually meet in person. If you have been text gaming her for a while and then you decide to meet up, it's like meeting for the first time. But at the same time you already know each other. It's a hard interaction to explain.

Anyway, I have adapted this game into the my everyday game. Don't text the target much. Keep things short and sweet. If she wants to talk, make her come over or meet somewhere. If she texts you wanting to talk, send a couple texts and set a later date, maybe that evening or tomorrow, whatever. Try to talk to her in person as much as possible. Things will go so much smoother.

That's my advice.
Author:  Newb987 [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:15 pm ]
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so you say to talk to her in person more often eh? cool cool, i can do that, how can i tell if this girl like me, i mean we've been flirting a bit via text, subtly tho cos she just broke up with her bf. Thing is i asked her out without me knowing she was "seeing" this other guy in the middle of all this she agreed to going out together, then that guy asked her of they should get together and they did, a month later he broke up with her. Now i want to see if she's still interested in me, just with subtle hints and stuff, then after a month or so ill ask her out again.

Any tips on getting her attention, helping swing the odds my way to getting a date.(not that confident and have never had a gf, so getting the first yes felt so great, so really wanna know if she's still interested without straight asking her, after she broke up)

(known each other for a year, still is talking to me after what happened and after I confessed my feelings for her (before i askd her out))

So what to do now?
Author:  RedSkwirl [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:45 pm ]
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First off, the fact that she is still talking to you is an IOI... most likely. You could be in the friend zone, but it doesn't really sound like it.

Confessing your feelings to a girl is not a good move until you are in comfort or late A3, and even then you don't want to tell her straight out that you love her or anything like that. Just say things like, "there's something different about you that I'm really attracted to." or stop her in the middle of her sentence and tell her she has pretty eyes.

When it comes to BF's, Fuck em'. Boyfriends don't matter at all. They are just a guy they have clicked with and are currently fucking, or so you could say. Then it comes down to morals for being engaged or married. I don't mess with that. All you need to do is prove to her that you are better than the guy she is with. Don't bring up her BF and if she does, pretend you guys are good friends (if you know him), or ask how things are going and change to a new conversation topic.

You will know when a girl is in to you. If she is willing to hang out with you, giving you constant IOI's (touching you, hugging you, teasing you, etc.), or jumping through your hoops, she is in to you.

Don't focus your game on one girl. It's almost impossible to get everything perfect when gaming one girl. Practice, practice, practice. But don't stop talking to this girl, especially because she is the one you want. Continue practicing on other girls though. It will build your confidence, and you will get so good at just talking and being comfortable around anyone.

Next, you should just hang out with her. If you are going out with friends to the movies or to a party, invite her along. She will be more comfortable hanging out with a group than you alone first. At the end of the night, make a date to hang out again (possibly at your place for a movie or dinner).

Take it slow, especially since this is the first girl. Don't worry if you do something wrong. Stay confident, and it doesn't matter what you do or say. Keep practicing, and eventually everything will come naturally to you. You have potential. Keep it up.

This is all what I would do. Develop your own game. SARGE UNTIL YOU BLEED!
Author:  Newb987 [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:49 pm ]
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all i said to her was I like you, alot.

she asked if i were doing anything this weekend cos i werent at work anything exciting?

I replied

"not so much tomorrow, uni have given me work! how could they :-p Ill be setting up a charity footie match for the lads, maybe some DJ work for the local hospital radio, and relax on my birthday, shame you cant have any chocolate cake with me in the warmth, u'll be in the wet and cold ;-p. Doin anything exciting after work? I need some ideas cant be doing work all day. :-D Xxx"
Author:  Newb987 [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:50 pm ]
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flirty kinda, especially with the cake suggesting that she can be at a better place with me, creative kinda?

I dunno i need better things to say, to her thats flirty and not coming on strong/suggestive but not coming on forward/ how can i be creative make her laugh make me seem BF material.

Im gonna try and suggest something to do together with like a pokey out tongue so its suggestive and not straight out asking her out, seeing how she reacts.

Anything i can do to help better my image? I wanna be flirtacous but dont want to ruin anything if i say the wrong thing.

I like these ones but dont know when to use em

your [insert some attribute] is the 2nd most attractive thing about you
Author:  Newb987 [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:24 pm ]
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Out of all the (first name) (last name)'s I know... I think your my favorite.

I wanna be creative and make her laugh, you know ??
Author:  RedSkwirl [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:44 pm ]
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I like that last one. Very witty. Sounds like you are doing a good job so far.

Like I said before, anything like "I love you" or "I like you a lot" in your case, is coming on too strong. Tone it down.

The way the game works is for you not to show interest in her until she shows interest in you first. Then you can reward her with IOI's. Girls unconsciously love a challenge when it comes to guys. A cool, social, interesting guy that doesn't show interest in her makes her want him that much more. So you play it cool until she shows interest. then you want to make her feel like she is winning you over. But not until A3 and Comfort.

As far as your appearance goes, I suggest shopping at nicer stores. Start spending a little more on your clothes. For tips on improving your appearance, I recommend reading The Game by Neil Strauss and The Mystery Method by Mystery (lol). They have a lot of tips on how to improve yourself. They will also tell you everything you need to know about the game, and with that knowledge, your confidence and skill at talking to women will sky rocket.

Read through other threads on the forum for routines and material to keep her interested. Pick out what sounds like something you would say. Don't use other people's material if you wouldn't ever say that. It will make her think something is up, especially since she knows you.

Be comfortable and confident when talking to her. That is key. Also be cocky, witty, and interesting. It won't come over night. Keep practicing.
Author:  Newb987 [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:59 pm ]
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whats a3 and comfort??

oh and i meant image as in my personal image as in the way i mentally come across to her as in my personality.

"The way the game works is for you not to show interest in her until she shows interest in you first. "
i hate this cos its a double edged sword i wanna talk to her but cant to make her want me lol. One thing to note is that we hadnt spoke in like 5 days and that was long cos usually we are either talking everyday or everyother day. I text her on the 5th day, saying hi how are ya, i then got a reply saying "i was thinking of texting you today but you beat me too it"
Author:  Newb987 [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:06 am ]
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is that an IOI??
Author:  RedSkwirl [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:30 am ]
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Hell yeah it is! Haha

The M3 model (game structure developed by Mystery. The basis of the Mystery Method). Attraction - Comfort - Seduction. Attraction is broken up into 3 phases A1, A2, and A3. A1 is the opener and hook. A2 is the female to male attraction, and A3 is Male to female attraction. I strongly recommend reading the Mystery Method. Especially if you are on this forum. Everything we talk about is based around this.

Personality just needs to be interesting. Don't be doing the same thing every day. Get out and do stuff. Do everything you want to do. Be passionate about what you talk about with her. As I have said multiple times before, be confident with what you say and it doesn't matter what you say.

Now for the part about not showing interest. You can still talk to her and not show interest. You have other guy friends and you don't flirt with them, right? But they still hang around. Obviously you wouldn't date one of them, but you treat her kind of like that. Tease her and be playful rather than be flirty. The flirting comes later. Once she starts showing a lot of interest, start showing interest back. When she stops showing a lot of interest, back off, and go back to the teasing/negs. When you want to talk to her, throw an opener out there. Something like, "hey, so I saw this fight today..." and it will get the conversation rolling. I will warn you, if you text her too much, she will start to feel you becoming too needy, and obviously you don't want that. She will stop talking to you all together, or you will become "just friends" and its almost impossible to get out of the friend zone. But if you remain interesting, she will love to talk to you.

Stay interesting. Keep confidence. Be positive. You got this.
Author:  Newb987 [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:55 am ]
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so u reckon i can do this, i can get this girl, if i try hard enough, be patient, i can get this girl, bearing in mind, i work with her see her every week, not really enough time in the week to see her outside of work due to uni and work.
Author:  RedSkwirl [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:54 am ]
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I believe in you, bro. Whatever time you can dedicate to this, do it. I have given you all the information I can. If you have any questions feel free to post them. Someone will answer them. Keep up the good work!
Author:  Newb987 [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:21 am ]
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how long are these books?? Theyre not massively long are they? lol.

Is it possible to give a bullet point on the general basic stuff, so from there i can read into them, from the books, if you know what i mean.
Author:  mrcoffee999888 [ Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:51 pm ]
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Man up and read the material. If you want the results, you need to put in the work.

If you are on this forum, you are probably here because you feel as if you need to improve in that area of your life.. If you want to see results, you need to open your mind to ALL of the information. Redskwirl has done a good job of giving you some basics that you've asked for, but giving you bullet points isn't going to be the magic keys to the universe. You need to open your mind, put in the time, read everything you can get your hands on thats PUA related, and practice all of the time.

The mystery method isn't that long, but thats barely enough.. there is a list of 3000 books that you should be super into reading, and more than that, you should be somewhere right now practicing.

No pain, No gain.
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