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Author:  jazz25 [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:16 am ]
Post subject:  Demonic conf/best openers
Over the past few weeks Ive tried out a range of different openers.

Today i decided to try some stupid openers to see if it really matters what you say when you open.

I tried out:

What day is it today?
Its my dogs birthday what should i get him?
Where can i buy a watch around here?

Out of these openers, The dog one got the most laughs. the day one got wierd looks like I was crazy and the watch one seemed pretty normal, if I asked for the time then asked where to buy a watch girls thought this was pretty funny.

I have found that when walking up to chicks and opening with, Hey I want your opinion on something, or Hey I think your cute.
Their bitch shield goes up, and its harder to keep the conversation going/get a flirt response.

I noticed that when I approached and opened with
Hey do you have the time?
Do you know where "___this___" place is?
Hey I like your "comment on something theyre wearing"

and then followed on with an opinion question/ flirting
girls responsded in a less bitchy way and the convo went alot smoother

Just some observations for new guys, more coming each day.
Author:  xfyre [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:21 am ]
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hahaha the dog one is pretty funny! im gonna try that one XD
Author:  PUA_CHRIS [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Opening: what to say
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I have found that when walking up to chicks and opening with, Hey I want your opinion on something, or Hey I think your cute.
Their bitch shield goes up, and its harder to keep the conversation going/get a flirt response.
That is true on so many levels, would never in a million years tell anyone to open like this unless:
1, The girl has been "eyeing" you for awhile
or
2, She comes across a bubbly natured individual who would love to talk

But gratz on going out there and getting some good responses, now Close!!
Author:  silverito [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:45 am ]
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speaking of funny, in the parking lot: excuse me do you know where I parked my car :D
Author:  PlayHer Man [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:56 am ]
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OP you are 100% correct.

I've had the most success with asking for directions. Because of this I have designed most of my game around approaching women this way.

Usually something like: "Hey I'm trying to find (insert place) do you know where it is?"

The dog one is definitely funny. But you risk coming off as a goof. I'm not trying to make someone giggle.. I'm trying to get laid.
Author:  jazz25 [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:28 am ]
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Hey playherman nice response, yeah I dont use the dog one I was doing it for the experience.
hahaha silver let me know how it goes man

So today i went out again, i aimed to approach 15 chicks through compliments and then 15 more using direct.

The first 3 went well, I opened with

Hey, I like you haircut it makes you look cute
Hey, I like your boots
Hey, Nice necklace, Im actually looking for a present for my lil sis. Where can I get somthing like it?

It was cool talking to these chicks, and I find that when im getting good responses, opening is like drinking water.. Its effortless.

On the 4th approach, I walked up and said to an HB 9, Hey, you have a nice sense in style. She looked at me like wtf? and then she said yeah right, fuck off. wow? wat a fucking slut. I was being genuine.

This really threw me off and just from that i was goin to call it a day, I spent an hour just driving around, fighting whether or not to go home.
In the end I came to a solid conclusion... If you get blown off by one chick, use the same damn opener on a group of girls.

Hopped out my car, went into the mall found the first 3 set, 2 7s and an 8 and used the exact same opener. Hey I dont know if anybodys told you this but you guys have a good taste in style. It was all smiles after that and chilled out with them for a bit.
Then I did another 12 approaches, and by the time I was going to go direct it was too late.

Ive decided that 2moro im doing 15 direct approaches and im going to go for the # close on each one.

What I learnt today: Some chicks are stuck up, dont let it phase you.
Author:  PlayHer Man [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:24 pm ]
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OP you are 100% correct again.

If you do enough approaches you will eventually get some attitude. She might be having a bad day or maybe she's just a difficult person in general. Who knows? Either way its better to move on and not get discouraged by them. One good move is to walk away from them when they are still talking to you. Who cares what ONE stupid bitch thinks?

The necklaces opener is AWESOME. I love it and I'm probably going to use it next time I'm in the field.
Author:  jazz25 [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:27 am ]
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Day3

So i just got back from town, I did 11 or 12 approaches, went direct on 10 of them.

I was opening with:
Hey, I know this is random but i think your georgous, and i just wanted to come say hi.
Hey, Im _____ i think your georgous
Hey whats the time? i didnt want the time, i came here because i think your pretty

I try not to open chicks who are walking in the opposite direction to me, because they tend to want to keep walking where they r goin.
I either approach from behind, and do a light touch on her arm so she turns or walk infront and talk over my shoulder. Both have been working well.

I noticed that with direct its either a YES or a no.
When its a Yes, It reminded me of a romance movie, when a naive girl gets swept off her feet and is really flustered. Its some powerful shit.
I also noticed, that all the asian chicks i talked to were really friendly about it and got really excited when told that theyre pretty compared to other chicks.

i got blown out 4 of the 10 times. The other times I had good convo going and got a bit of kino going etc. BUT I still didnt close, FUCK. i think i have closing anxiety, i need to get over this bull shit.
All i have to do is ask for the number, but its pushing my self to do it thats killing me.

Im going to the $2 store and getting some props, like cheap rings that can be used for fun in a set.

learning experiences:
Try to approach/open in the same direction.
Always open confidently, no second guessing.
Directs kick ass for a small adrenilin rush.

If any1 has any tips about closing. Or about cool props, any feedback is good.
Author:  PlayHer Man [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:15 am ]
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OP.. I actually do the complete opposite when it comes to direction.

I always approach women going in the opposite direction of me. I do this for a couple reasons:

1. I can see exactly what they look like and what they are doing: young, old, cute face, smiling, listening to music, lost, crying, etc. So I know if I'm attracted and if an approach is worthwhile.

2. If she blows me off I can continue in the direction I'm going and start on the next girl without having the first girl still walking near me.

3. Approaching from behind can scare her or freak her out if she is listening to music, reading or texting.

But do whatever works!
Author:  jazz25 [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:07 am ]
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WOOP i just got a # close was so easy and she was fine, holy shit i cant understand what stopped me before. It was hard to ask for it in the moment, and i came out with "well im off now, ill grab your number and we can be friends" She was telling me her # before id finished asking.

I didnt know how else to say it... and i think i might have friend zoned myself by sayin "we can be friends" but that can be easily changed.

Next time ill try setting up a day 2 with the # close. After i got the # we talked for like 30 seconds more and i told her id text her on friday about a party.



Playher man:
Never thought about it like that, i watched this daygame pro on youtube from lovesystems and i just started using his technique from behind.
good point though dude, most of the time i am walking in front and make a quick glance back, so I can see how she looks first.
Ive messed up and opened a few grannies with hot bodys before hahahahaha
Author:  0007 [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  how do u get far with asking for direction
Quote:
OP you are 100% correct.

I've had the most success with asking for directions. Because of this I have designed most of my game around approaching women this way.

Usually something like: "Hey I'm trying to find (insert place) do you know where it is?"

The dog one is definitely funny. But you risk coming off as a goof. I'm not trying to make someone giggle.. I'm trying to get laid.
I have never got far with asking for directions.
Author:  jazz25 [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: how do u get far with asking for direction
Quote:
Quote:
OP you are 100% correct.

I've had the most success with asking for directions. Because of this I have designed most of my game around approaching women this way.

Usually something like: "Hey I'm trying to find (insert place) do you know where it is?"

The dog one is definitely funny. But you risk coming off as a goof. I'm not trying to make someone giggle.. I'm trying to get laid.
I have never got far with asking for directions.
what style do you use?
Author:  jazz25 [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:49 am ]
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Day4
Today i went out, and did day 13 of demonic confidence.

i have no fucking clue why its so damn hard to compliment a women.
To just walk up, get a grip on ur big black balls and say "Hey, you have really nice eyes" or " I like your smile".

The aim was to learn to control sexual state by feeling sexual desire towards a chick for half a second and then moving yourself back into a non sexual state, so you look at her as if she is your mum. It was pretty hard, but as you get closer to 30th women it gets easy.

No conversing today, but I did get time to practice opening in different directions.

Playherman: I tried your walking in a different direction style and found it alot harder then walking the same way. But thinking from your perspective, It was really awkward after talking and still walking the same way.

Learned:
Its one thing to compliment a woman, its another to do it confidently.
Author:  PlayHer Man [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: how do u get far with asking for direction
Quote:
Quote:
OP you are 100% correct.

I've had the most success with asking for directions. Because of this I have designed most of my game around approaching women this way.

Usually something like: "Hey I'm trying to find (insert place) do you know where it is?"

The dog one is definitely funny. But you risk coming off as a goof. I'm not trying to make someone giggle.. I'm trying to get laid.
I have never got far with asking for directions.
You have to do more than ask for directions. I just use it as an OPENER to get the girl to stop walking and talk to me. After that you have to hit her with some game and flirting.
Author:  PlayHer Man [ Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:35 am ]
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Quote:
Playherman: I tried your walking in a different direction style and found it alot harder then walking the same way. But thinking from your perspective, It was really awkward after talking and still walking the same way.

Learned:
Its one thing to compliment a woman, its another to do it confidently.
Really? You found it harder to approach them head on? What was the main problem?
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