Lets take for example palm reading.
After meeting people.
PUA:" do u know how to read palms?"
HB:"nope."
PUA: "well, let me see your hand then
(grab her hand)"Is there a better way to do it without seeming try hard/needy?
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| Author: | Melodical [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:25 pm ] |
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DHV's if not delivered correctly,either too subtly so they don't get picked up or to overtly,to the point of looking like you're trying to impress,and hence lowering your own value instead of heightening it can happen to the best of us if you haven't calibrated your target correctly.So how can you deliver them to the point where there pretty overt,but not picked up for critical analysis?....by stealthing them,and here's how you do it..... Before the advent of language in humans and in all animals there is an unusual evolutionary quirk we can utilise for our goal.When an animal spots a predator it does not stop to contemplate whether it is danger or not,it acts immediatly and flees,the fact of "predator present" is accepted "believed" and acted upon (those that analysed died and never passed their genes on)those that acted were the first over the horizon away from danger. The common believe in society now is that when a fact is presented to us it goes into some sort of mental pending tray and then we analyse it and decide whether or not to believe it.The latest research is showing something very odd.When a fact (DHV) is presented to us, for a brief second it is AUTOMATICALLY believed then our conscious mind decides whether to "unbelieve" it or not,now suppose we can interrupt this "unbelieving" process to allow our DHV virus into the system to multiply and get its foot in the door...There are two methods to achieve this;attentional refocus, basically asking the target a question straight after the DHV and retargeting her cognitive processes in another direction and avoid critical analysis or by creating confusion (recommended for more intelligent targets) the confusion should be of a linguistic nature my favourite if you can introduce it is "what wouldn't happen if you didn't?" this ties up all the cognitive processing due to the double negatives involved and effectively brings the system down temporarily meanwhile our DHV is sailing unimpeded into her mind.There is an even more powerful method called the "compounded DHV pattern" which I will post tomorrow if this gets a good response. |
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| Author: | Numi [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:19 pm ] |
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Very interesting, thanks alot. I've had some troubles with DHV stories and spikes! |
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| Author: | ShadoWSlash [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:38 am ] |
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Lets take for example palm reading. After meeting people. PUA:" do u know how to read palms?" HB:"nope." PUA: "well, let me see your hand then (grab her hand)"Is there a better way to do it without seeming try hard/needy? |
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| Author: | Paperbag_Hobo [ Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:58 am ] |
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A good way to work into palmistry is to analyze something she says for some sort of emotion and go from there. This is a rundown of the conversation I had with a girl at the mall a few days ago: *A few minutes of exchange on how we both loved visiting British Columbia* Me: I really enjoyed the snowboarding out there, the mountains are way better than anything we have here. Girl: Oh I've always wanted to try snowboarding, or skiing even but I never got around to it. Me: Oh so you're the adventurous type then? Wait actually don't answer that, this friend of mine has been teaching me palm reading lately - she's a little bit of a hippy and wants me to open my horizons and whatnot - but apparently being adventurous is one of the easiest things to read out of a palm. From there I proceeded to take her hand and do a palm reading (note: I know NOTHING about palm reading, but guess what, I told her she was adventurous). Got a great deal of kino in after that, all starting with the palm reading, and she ended up taking me shoe shopping. Got my first number and kiss close (only been aware of PUA for about a week now). I realize I'm very new to this, but I haven't managed to pick up a girl in 3 years until the other day so I'm assuming it worked! Obviously the specific personality trait you try to "read" from her palm is situational, but adventurous worked nicely in this situation. |
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| Author: | xghost riderx [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:54 am ] |
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well done!!! |
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| Author: | Mc.lovin [ Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:46 pm ] |
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thats fantsatic , the way youve incorporated the palm reading into your convo about snowboarding, great transition, ima try that aswell |
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| Author: | Melodical [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:18 pm ] |
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Stealthing your DHV's part 2 (compounded pattern) I was going to post this last week but the poster who brought up how to introduce palmistry got me thinking how to utilise the compounded pattern in this manner and I wanted to field test it first. Here it is..... 1/ PUA states DHV to target, to prevent critical analysis by target and seed DHV trait into her mind he then instantly follows with...... 2/ Attentional refocus,in this case it must be a question as you are saving the confusional inducement for later, The question must be something the target has to say yes to this creates the beginnings of a "yes set" (if you work in sales you will be familiar with yes sets or compliance stacks,if you don't well look it up) In hypnosis there is a method of trance induction called a confusional induction, in a nutshell;THe hypnotist will create rapport with the subject then suddenly break it by confusing his subject by either yanking their arm or putting them of balance,the conscious mind is overloaded trying to work out whats happening and to bring about some sort of order or logic to itself it calls upon the processing power of the subconscious mind to assist,the subconscious however now dealing with the real world without being filtered through you conscious mind is very suggestible, so to end the confusion and give the mind a liferaft to haul itself into....you give it one......the suggestion (ah ha) the unconscious seizes on to it as logic,order.... your in! and so......... 3/ After being told "yes" by the target you confuse linguistically, my favourite as I have mentioned is "what wouldn't happen if you didn't?" Wait for their eyes to slightly lose focus thats the mild trance as the unconscious boots up.you now have three seconds,say "give me your hand a moment" the unconscious will comply you have just given it a an end from its uncertainty.Then flow into the palmistry routine. |
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| Author: | hemmingway [ Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:53 am ] |
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I like this post. I was actually thinking about it critically today because I used it so well yesterday. I had success with it, although it is slightly different from your technique. How it went down yesterday while in a conversation about Costa Rica: So yeah, Costa Rica is going to be so fun. I wait to go. Me and my friends are going to have so much fun. (I continue talking for a little while, then I change tone and emotion of voice as if I just spontanously remembered a fact. And I embed the DHV) I just have to see if my dad can take care of a little girl I adopted. Long story. My cousin got into trouble and there is no one to look after her child. Her name is Emma and she is 5 years old. Do you have any kids? Well, I tell you its alot of work, but when I tuck her into bed at night it is all worth it. I'm still trying to grasp my mind around the whole thing. Very wierd situation. (I end with a statement that she is thinking - very wierd. No doubt she agrees with me. But agreeing to what? She didn't have time to anayse it. Then I go back to my original tone of voice and continue and finish what I was talking about before) Anyway, I sure my dad wouldn't mind watching her. What I want to do when I get to costa rica is scuba dive. Have you ever been scuba diving? No? Well costa rica has some of the best places to scuba dive is the world. (And I continue to talk about it for a while. During the whole process I am controling the conversation and talking just a little fast) As you notice I do use questions to keep my target engage and to divert her attention from any critical anaylse of the story, but how i differ is I start and finish with the same story while embedding the DHV as a side thought in the middle of the story while simultanously changing tone and emotion of voice. ***Very important. I am confident the technique is solid. Just be careful of the content itself. This situation took place at 2am at a bar.*** |
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| Author: | airlighter2 [ Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:08 pm ] |
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basically anything adventurous and then go into the palm reading! |
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