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Author:  Reliever [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:09 am ]
Post subject:  What I learned about clubs tonight. read this
Ill keep it brief. So basically my brother is a club guru PUA. Legitly... we walk into this club literally 8 different sets of girls walk up to him and start talking to him. the night goes on. i continue to get shut down and he said im going to give u the advice that ive been using my entire life in clubs.

so to keep it in short: walk up to a girl. compliment her beauty, eyes, shoes or anything that is physically appealing. after doing so ask her 2-3 questions. really doesn't matter what. just spark up a conversation that doesn't make you sound like a douche bag. After doing so close and walk away from her with well maybe ill catch you on the dance floor. then instantly once you walk away from the set of girls walk to another set so they see you...

I wish he had given this advice to me earlier in the night. I used it for 30 minutes. Got dances with 4 different girls. 2 of them gave me their numbers. and one of them is basically implying to me that she wants to fuck. Im now officially stoked for the club scene. I used to fuckin hate it!!!
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:00 pm ]
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Good post Reliever.

What your brother did was the basic/classic(direct)opener.

That's the way it should be done.

Thats what the community teaches.

Your brother just uses direct game,while Im more of the in-direct method user.

Your brother uses compliments as openers(direct method).

I wouldnt use compliments as openers(it telegraphs too much interest),I would throw a neg in rather than a compliment(Indirect method).

Guys hound girls in clubs too much and hover like choppers(lol).

I approach,use a canned opener or just make something up on the fly,throw 2 negs,maybe a routine,then excuse myself impolitely(lol) or just wal away from the girl(roll off).

Then approach another set so she sees(social proof),do the same thing then again...

At end of the night,I'd have HB's coming up to me(lol).

I did this in a night club once:

I seen the OYD(object of my desires)on the dance floor dancing in a trance.

She was fucking sexy;a plumper HB8.7,but she was confident about it.She exuded sex appeal so much that the slimmer girls on the floor marvelled at her(lol).

Like 30 guys were hounding her,trying to grind on her,begging to dance with her,harrassing her.

She turned all of them down politely but moving away(lol).She evntually got fed up and went to catch a breather alone.

I approached from an angle from behind and came over the shoulder as I talk to her[non-threatening,non-needy,not pecking].

Me:"Hey,you think you can dance right[in a cocky sly tone]?"

HB8.7:"Excuse me[she was shocked and tried to test my congruency to see if I'd bacc down or change my comment]"

Me:"Nah,you're not all that good of a dancer[a neg & false disqualifier].I can do way better than you.In fact I can teach you how to dance."

That's it-and I rolled off and went to a bar to grab a drink,knowing that she'd follow[at least that's what the pick-up article said about pulling off a routine like this-the girl will follow]

To my fucking surprise[this' my 1st. time using this approach],the HB8.7 was sitting next to me at the bar while I stood ordering a drink(lol).

She scared the shit out of me as he appeared like a ghost within 2 min. of me rolling off(lol).

I obviously knew she was stalking me becaue I'd hooked her with my challenging neg.

She opened me at the bar:

HB8.7:"What you mean you can dance better than me?"

[I felt powerful & surprised that the routine is working as it said it would online-I think it was Tyler Durden or Swingcat who wrote this].

Me:"Yea,as I said,you can use some classes[in a playful/cocky tone of course with a sly smile]".

Long story short,I took her back to my hotel after tonguing her down for 45 min. in the lounge.

I couldnt F-close this girl because I didnt have a FUCING condom!!!!!

Shit!!It still hurts when I think about it eventhough it was over 3 years now(lol)!!

So Reliever,your brother approaches same way as I do,just that I use indirect game.

I find this method best,opposed to hanging around the same target for 3 hours.
Author:  Reliever [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:06 pm ]
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that was a good post k-loc. you should work on a thread about club game and try and get a sticky.
Author:  alphamale_16 [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:13 pm ]
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Direct game shows courage, self-confidence. Girls like to feel chased.

If you are in a disco and you approach a woman, whatever you said, she will know

you are trying to pick up. So it's much better to say what you really think and

compliment her. Most of guys haven't got courage to do so because they don't want

to be rejected.
Author:  Tasty [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:11 pm ]
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Good job man, props for having courage and getting numbers

But i've found that even when you think you're being direct, you're not being direct enough. I would open a girl by saying "hi whats your name" and think I was being direct. nope.

Lately, I will wont necessairly "open" the girl, but as we're passing eachother in the bar or on the street, i'll say "you're fucking sexy" or "you're DAMN hot" and look her up and down, sexual eye contact. All within 2 seconds. Youll get some ignoring you, but if delivered confidently, you'll get positive reactions.
Every other guy will walk up to her and say "my, you look great, I like your eyes" or whatever. They say thanks, and their like "next" in their mind. But if you stand out and be AS DIRECT AS POSSIBLE, it only works in your favor. Ive had several times where the girl grabs my hand and squeezes it. No other opener has this happened to me with

You can either treat it as an opener (walk up, say it, then give very strong EC), or as a takeaway (say it and keep walking)

Then there's the whole next level of being physically direct, as fast as possible. The whole thing with trying to get blown out as early in the night as you can, with touch. You're setting the bar for yourself when you make a ballsy move, earlier, rather than at 1:50am and the bars are closing
Author:  Energy_ [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:56 pm ]
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About clubgame...

I got 3 friends (2 naturals, 1 afc, but hes learning) that I usually go to clubs with.
We use the same gameplan for everynight:

-Get in pretty early
-Open and pawn a set of girls that are sitting down
-Have a GREAT fucking time, make sure everyone in there see it,
get som EC:s
-Open random sets while buying drinks ( at least one each round)
-Dancefloor time (bring the people we've opened)
-Freak out on the dancefloor (Have fun! Not hitting on girls)
-Wait for it. HB:s will come.
Author:  Absolute_Zero [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:43 pm ]
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I'm more or less a pure club-gamer, generally in my city's biggest clubs 2 or 3 times a week.

I don't really like the approach you mentioned, but respect it for others if it works for them.

Way too direct for me, way too much interest, way too much like any old AFC might do.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:16 pm ]
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Thanks for the props Rliever;but I dont think my club game is special.

Alphamale 16,you have a good point about girls knowing when you're hitting on them or not(whether you use direct or in-direct game).

But I totally disagree on you saying indirect game is a weaker approach.

From my experience,I have way more success with indirect game.

Women love the chase is right;so indirect game give them that chase,while direct game becomes too predictable.

But in truth,anything works. It depends on a lot of things;the type of girl,etc.

Plus if a girl is already sexually amped up,her buying temperature pumping,I advocate going direct,because she's already in a sexual state.

But if the girl is reserved,around friends,SOBER(lol),using direct game has less chance of success.

So,go direct with tipsy girls,and go indirect with sober ones(lol).

Tasty made the biggest point against direct game,and that is every guy in the club is approaching with compliment lines about how sexy she looks...But in her mind,she's like-NEXT,I heard that 20 times for the night.

If being direct with compliments was so working,every woman in every night venues would be locked in and getting laid,because every guy is coming with direct game.

Plus,a girl cannot fall for every guy who approaches direct-she has to reject most or all or she'd be a grand whore.

So indirect game gives the girl a better option she'd jump on.

Energy basically spoke on social proofing,and thats the best move for club game.

Hey Absolute Zero,I fucking totally agree with you.

Compliment openers are waaaaaaay too direct and AFC'ish.

That's what every AFC in the club does and thats why they never get laid or just get lucky once a year(lol).

The main difference why a direct opener like Reliever's brother works is because he rolls off.

He doesnt stay in set nor bugs the girl all night-he leaves after he drops his line.

But if he were to stay,no takeaways,no body rocking out,the girl would most likely reject him soon.
Author:  Reliever [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:39 am ]
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we need to get an experienced club thug to write a legit ass thread on club game and the different types cause i know that something that everybody struggles with at some point in their career
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:53 am ]
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Why do you need more club game Rliever?

Your brother has the format already.

It's just for you to work on social proofing and pre-selection stuff now.

What your brother's doing when he bounces from set to set is building social proof and pre-selection.

No one wants to be hounded by a guy who seems lonely all night.
Author:  the scamp [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:40 am ]
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Top thread Reliever.

Yeah Loc is spot on.

One phrase

"Don't overcomplicate"

I'm going to field test your bro's method.

Props

Scamp
Author:  Tasty [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:11 pm ]
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Quote:
we need to get an experienced club thug to write a legit ass thread on club game and the different types cause i know that something that everybody struggles with at some point in their career
Club game, day game, night game, barbershop game, shopping mall game, classroom game, grocery store game, inside game, outside game, horny game, sober game, drunk game....

Game is game, and anywhere you go, any girls you see... you develop a personality that can successfully vibe with ANY girl ANYWHERE. That's the important thing to remember. There are slight variances, the environment, music, lights, etc. But in general, your inner game is always there with you.

As long as you can open the girl with a fun vibe, hopefully make her laugh, and show her how awesome you are as a person/guy... then you're gold. Grab the number, and get back at her. If she doesnt reply, no big deal, you have 12 other numbers of girls that you havn't texted yet :D

One reason this is important, is that you dont rely on the environment for how much confidence you have, "situational confidence"... and i'm developing my cold approach daytime confidence to match my night game confidence
Author:  alphamale_16 [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:22 pm ]
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Well, from my experience, the club game is very simple:

When some girl looks at you, she has an idea about your sex-appeal (5,6,7,8...),

the same as we do with girls. If she thinks you are attractive, you can go and tell her

she is hot and you want something with her. If not, you can work on indirect-game,

but it's rather difficult because the music is very loud.

So the key to pick up in a disco is to be as hot as you can. I mean cool style, dance hot...
Author:  Spark89 [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:05 pm ]
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I think Tasty is spot on. Make a girl laugh and you can do anything. At the same time though dont be too much of a joker, because then thats all you are "the funny, odd strange guy". Everything in moderation humourous and a cool intelligent and stimulating guy.....

Now we are cooking on gas!

Man these very posts have reminded me why I love game and people!

Spark.
Author:  Tasty [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:18 pm ]
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Quote:
I think Tasty is spot on. Make a girl laugh and you can do anything. At the same time though dont be too much of a joker, because then thats all you are "the funny, odd strange guy". Everything in moderation humourous and a cool intelligent and stimulating guy.....

Now we are cooking on gas!

Man these very posts have reminded me why I love game and people!

Spark.
Yep. you disengage her logical mind, turn on her emotional. And must remember to throw in sexual/touch/intent so that you arent a dancing monkey entertainer guy. Or her LJBF
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