depends on the quality of the girl/club she may cut her losses and bounce from the club having made $20
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Club Opener(compliance) |
Guys Im back after 2 months lay off with my 1st.-new post This' a club opener Im planning on using next outting. Note:not to be used by newbies nor guys lacking confidence. [Now as I see the target approching,as she reaches within arm reach to my side. Instead of letting her pass me,I'd grab her hand(from the side with a smile on my face as though I knew her)and slightly lead her closer to me,pulling her into me opposed to me leaning into her making her uncomfortable. Then I'd say to her]: Me:Hey,I've noticed that girls nowadays are pretty selfish & stuck-up when it comes to doing favors for people. For some reason,I get the feeling that you're different[it conveys I may be clairvoyant and familiar with her]. Then I'd pull out a $20 bill and put it in her hand[being dominant]and say... Me:Why don't you buy 'US' drinks.I want a ... I'll be right here. Pretty simple. If she complies,she's 'ON'. If she doesn't,stack forth with a routine or story. But for some reason,I really don't see the target not complying to the challenge. The routine is pretty alpha & dominant;it's about conveying that. It is not violating the PUA rule of not buying the target a drink. It would've been supplication if I went to buy her a drink. Instead,I sent her to buy US drinks. |
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| Author: | The Heartless Kid [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:04 pm ] |
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doesn't sound bad sounds like what will smith did in the begining of his movie Hitch haha hmm but what happens if she jus takes the 20 and leaves and buys her gf a drink? from my opinion i dun rly like these openers, i do more direct openers... but post what happens here, still curious as to see what the result could be good luck =] |
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:03 am ] |
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Lol,I have a remedy for that Heartless Kid. I meant to add that after giving her the $ to buy the drinks,ensure that you're still within her view so she doesn't run off unknowingly. But I'd prefer to run the opener near a bar or at the bar itself. It's a pretty decent opener. |
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| Author: | EntourageandLifestyle [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | response to k-loc |
my boy, you have to realize OPENERS do not mean shit! Yes I said it, openers don't mean shit, if you ask any women after she has engaged with you for awhile she doesn't even remember. But thats not my point. My point is a true good conversation in general, is being able to respond quickly to the responses she gives you and lead the interaction to the way you want it. For example, you say something, and she gives you a very mundane yes or no answer. This is a hardcore reality most PUAs that focus on canned routines and material still have to face regardless of how great the opener is. YOU STILL HAVE TO TALK AFTERWARDS. So please please please. Stay away from routines. If you want to further discuss this shoot me a message on Facebook "Dele Olora" |
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:40 pm ] |
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Lol,I have to laugh at Entourage & Lifestyle's post because it's so true; After the opener,one does have to talk. I get that. I won't advocate for any PUA to just rely on the opener or cannd lines. To be honest,I love canned routines and I always use them. But you must be able to be witty on the fly.Able to outwit the target. |
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| Author: | TheTruthPUA [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:27 pm ] |
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Quote: Lol,I have to laugh at Entourage & Lifestyle's post because it's so true;
LOL, I laugh because he standed the obvious... u never should depend on canned shit... because people will react different to the lines.. hence if u rely on it u will be fucked because u won't know what to say if she changes shit up... I think canned shit is useable when your getting to know the game, but once u at MPUA u shouldn't need to use canned shit... but either way k-loc was asking for opinions on the opener not an opinion on whether you should used canned lines or not.After the opener,one does have to talk. I get that. I won't advocate for any PUA to just rely on the opener or cannd lines. To be honest,I love canned routines and I always use them. But you must be able to be witty on the fly.Able to outwit the target. so to the point... k-loc its a decent opener, but to be honest it seems like much... it seems like you would have to execute it great with a good amount of confidence for it too work... |
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:32 pm ] |
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Thanks for re-enforcing my point The truth PUA. I agree with you 100% on canned lines. Ifone relies on them soley or too much,if the target doesnt respond favorably,the guy gets short circuited(lol). An MPUA on the other hand should be more versatile. |
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| Author: | Clark Kent [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:44 pm ] |
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depends on the quality of the girl/club she may cut her losses and bounce from the club having made $20
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:25 pm ] |
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True to an extent. But as I stated before;the guy should position himself in a way that the girl can see him and he can see her at the bar. WTF,even go with her(lol). It's a risk but it's worth taking. |
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| Author: | IceCrasher [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:51 am ] |
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sounds like you got it planned mate, and it's your style, so it's cool, you better have something to follow that up tho, since that opener doesn't seem like it'll make her talk that much, maybe if she refuses anyways, about the talking part, mystery has said "if a man is interesting, a woman will be interested in her" the point is, how are you interesting, we feel atraction for whatever's interesting right, so we can conclude that being interesting for a girl, is pushing the atraction triggers, so, i'd rather have those triggers topics in my head, than the actual routines, it'll make the calibration a lot easier, i mean, you don't even have to think that much, what i usually do is, you know ask her questions then question her, confuse her reality and bring her into yours making it look like yours is more important, make her feel the need to qualify to yourself cause most guys don't question them in a playful way they're either rude and are frustrated to her or they just suck up, this will make her reaction be good since you're being unique, then your answers to her answers can DHV and there you go, with simple conversation, you can pretty much get any girl you want, you might have to throw a neg or so before you start the questions, and give one interesting opinion first so she follows and you aren't stuck with the boring answers, it's all calibration, but idk, thinking about your opener it again, it looks like with it, the girl can feel atracted to a confident strong male like you, who's dominant, then with couple lines and some ke, you're in.. : D |
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| Author: | PUA Kenny [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:03 pm ] |
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Great concept Ice Crasher. I'd definitely have a follow up as she returns with drinks. Whether it's situational. For instance,she returns with the drink[her doing it in the first place shows some level of intrigue]... I'd then say to her,"Wow,you've been a pretty nice girl". Then I'd reward her with a tap on the shoulder(initiating the kino)or a hug. Then it's on like Donkey Kong from there[a sound bite from Aj Harbinger of Pickupodcast.com]. As you said in other words Ice Crasher,this opening-routine is tailored to my personality since I made it. Now that I think about it,it's pretty easy to transition as she returns. |
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