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things to keep in mind WHEN OPENING :

1. let go of any expectation and enjoy the conversation...
2. Be plausible, be fun, be cocky and above al .. don't give a shit - say what you think or like to say
3. Listen to keywords and combinate them - Don't seek rapport but lead the conversation
4. Don't give up ... when someone isn't investing you need to make them invest... Be cocky and use a neg like i mensioned above.
5. Body language.... Don't appear needy and face the side - don't face a person with your whole body especially at a bus-stop because it could be intimidating.
6. Talk slowly with pause and emotions.... don't talk fast with a high vitched voice.. the faster you talk the less you have to say.
7. fidgeting ... don't do fidgeting , don't grab your phone multiple times and don't look on your watch mulitple times - the other person will get the feeling you find him/her boring.
8. don't forget to kino

broke down in simple parts

1. get into the mood
2. don't give a shit and be persistent
3. body language ( appear uninterested !)
4. Voice tonality and pace of talking
5. Listen to keywords
6. Kino

When you see her coming towards you or in the Gym, take your phone out and pretend to receive a text.

PUA: (look up from your phone) Hey can i get a womens opinion on this

HB: ok

PUA: my friend just text me saying, his girlfriend has said she doesnt want him to go into the army. but its his childhood dream. what should he do?

HB: blah blah

PUA: ok, sorry about randomly picking on you its just its been stressing me out. Has anything like this ever happened to you?

FLUFF

thats the general idea, different question can be used and depending what she says u can use a different LO (lead on) at the end

lol okay...

this is the reason "pua's" either turn into weird socially retarded people (no offence) or learn the natural and REAL (oops i said it, please don't hurt me) way to pick up women. im still a virgin but so i'm just basing what i'm saying out of the juggler method book i read...

Author:	DDevil [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:13 am ]
Post subject:	I Need Some Advice
Bit about myself, I am currently 18 years old and attending college. Now onto the problem. So there’s this girl that’s caught my eye. And I honestly don’t know how to go about approaching the situation because here’s the deal. I see her about twice a day during the week just walking the halls of the college and she’s always by her self. I don’t know her name or anything about her except for the fact that this girl takes the same city bus I do and gets off at the same stop I do to get home so she’s obviously seen me and lives in the same neighbourhood. I find myself in a weird spot for an approach because I don’t know how to start a conversation with her because, well I’ve never said anything to her before... And if I do it now she might find it weird that I didn’t do it sooner. If you understand what I mean. How would I go about approaching her or stopping her in the halls without being weird? or even on the bus. Any advice would be great! thanks

Author:	Highlife09 [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:11 am ]
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I have same problem with some girls at the gym. So I know what you are talking about! Im thinking about playing it slow, get some eye contact and just start greeting, and after that advance.

Author:	tov [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:01 pm ]
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This problem plagued me when I first started my day game adventures. I tried using opinion openers, indirect openers, etc but I realized that it was too hard to keep their attention since they were always busy doing something, or had their day plans on their mind. What I found works best for day game is going in direct. What I use up at the local college in town is making eye contact a few meters out, say "Hi" within 3-7 meters, and stop and start talking. If you keep eye contact and say Hi loud and strong enough, they almost always stop and talk. From there, you can use whatever style you are used to I guess, but I always just start talking, finding out about her, and bounce her with "You look gorgeous, so I had to stop you. But we both know that beauty is only skin deep. Why don't we grab a coffee and you can tell me if you have more to offer me than just good looks." I have some lines and routines that work for a less direct pull, and if that is more of your style, let me know and we'll work on it. GL man. Just don't worry about right or wrong and just do it.

Author:	wonderbeard [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:07 pm ]
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Throw some cocky-funny flirting at her. Tell the girl that you've been seeing her around everywhere, and that she could just ask you out instead of resorting to stalking you.

Author:	DDevil [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:36 am ]
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cool thanks guys, i'll give it a shot

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Author:	SoZoS [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:52 am ]
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I'd probably go with something like wonderbeard said, cock-funny flirting, make it seem like you just noticed shes been following you around, tell her its not the first time you've been followed by a cute girl home You should be fine, just make sure you come off as fun and flirty, not creepy and weird.. -SoZoS

Author:	EndersGame [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:07 am ]
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Same city bus? That sounds like the perfect place to do the approach, try sitting next to her in the bus and starting up the conversation there. Using the why are you stalking me stuff discussed earlier. Doesn't work? Oh well next in line please.

Author:	*Klepto* [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:53 am ]
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When you see her coming towards you or in the Gym, take your phone out and pretend to receive a text. PUA: (look up from your phone) Hey can i get a womens opinion on this HB: ok PUA: my friend just text me saying, his girlfriend has said she doesnt want him to go into the army. but its his childhood dream. what should he do? HB: blah blah PUA: ok, sorry about randomly picking on you its just its been stressing me out. Has anything like this ever happened to you? FLUFF thats the general idea, different question can be used and depending what she says u can use a different LO (lead on) at the end

Author:	Lodewijkp [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:40 pm ]
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enough information here... ( btw i create this on the spot .. no canned material except the phone opener ) you can try a phone opener she: (texting / calling or looking at phone ) me : Dump him he's 5 minutes late ! she : what ? laughing me : no seriously how late is he she :blablabla opening is easy because you got nothing to lose: i don't consider myself PUA and i don't consider myself MPUA but opening is actaully the easiest thing you can do. if someone rejects you just walk away ... it's not like you die - you got nothing to loose, Maintaining a relationship is the hard part ! Don't make it complicated and don't think too much about it.... just approach and say the fuck you want to say - i think you need a playful cocky ''fuck it '' mindset. Expample of a convo im gonna make this a hard convo ( not much compliance and boring replies ) so you can see how I personally keep a uninteresting conversation going. You can be interesting and say stuff but what if the girl is giving you a hard time ? : when she's waiting for the bus you could say "' hey are you waiting for the pizza delivery or the bus ? she : what me: hey im hungry aren't you ? she : ( reject ) ( or compliance) me : do you like italian food ? she : yeah little bit me : i have been in italy and it was wonderful, there are many good italtian restaurants here to ! she : oh ( or she says I HAVE BEEN IN ITALY... compliance COMPLY COMLPY ) me : yeah they look pretty but the food sucks me : you don't know what to choose.... she : what ? me : you didn't say what your waiting for .. pizza or bus ? she : the bus me : bad choice i would go for the pizza she : why me : because im hungry When someone doesn't invest ? :now we talk further but she didn't say much... only '' what '' '' oh ? '' and ''why'' ? im gaming her but i don't like her actually .. i like spontaneous girls ! so i say the fuck i want to say , i only say what i see and think ! She isn't investing so i need to make her invest into the conversation ! me: this is a educated guess .. but something tells me you don't go out alot ? ( purpose striking up a new convo ) this neg will (probably) strike up a new convo about going out and venues, i don't use negs at opening to only DHV myself - i use negs to strike up a new conversation. She doesn't wanna look silly or boring im DLV-ing her, so im challeging her to prove me wrong ( ping ponging) TALKING TALKING TALKING TALKING Backward relate to stay plausible : at the end me : hey im going to offer you something but you have to behave she : hehe offer what ? me : pizza or bus ? The trick is to Backward relate to your opener, it makes everything completely plausible- you can open and ask the time but it's a little bit vague when you ask her to eat a pizza with you. Keywords to keep the convo going: Just listen to keywords ..... Italian.. pizza .. bus .. make up .. expensive shoes - expensive and shoes you can also combinate them : bus and pizza me : hey don't tell anyone can you keep a secret ? she : uhh yeah i guess me : i once smuggeled a pizza into this bus, do you know why to keep it a secret ? me : no no wait ... you look the kind of person which can't hold secrets cocky funny convo and at the end i tell her what happened in the bus in a fun and cocky way..... things to keep in mind WHEN OPENING : 1. let go of any expectation and enjoy the conversation... 2. Be plausible, be fun, be cocky and above al .. don't give a shit - say what you think or like to say 3. Listen to keywords and combinate them - Don't seek rapport but lead the conversation 4. Don't give up ... when someone isn't investing you need to make them invest... Be cocky and use a neg like i mensioned above. 5. Body language.... Don't appear needy and face the side - don't face a person with your whole body especially at a bus-stop because it could be intimidating. 6. Talk slowly with pause and emotions.... don't talk fast with a high vitched voice.. the faster you talk the less you have to say. 7. fidgeting ... don't do fidgeting , don't grab your phone multiple times and don't look on your watch mulitple times - the other person will get the feeling you find him/her boring. 8. don't forget to kino broke down in simple parts 1. get into the mood 2. don't give a shit and be persistent 3. body language ( appear uninterested !) 4. Voice tonality and pace of talking 5. Listen to keywords 6. Kino

Author:	MySmileIsARifle :-) [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:06 pm ]
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Quote: things to keep in mind WHEN OPENING : 1. let go of any expectation and enjoy the conversation... 2. Be plausible, be fun, be cocky and above al .. don't give a shit - say what you think or like to say 3. Listen to keywords and combinate them - Don't seek rapport but lead the conversation 4. Don't give up ... when someone isn't investing you need to make them invest... Be cocky and use a neg like i mensioned above. 5. Body language.... Don't appear needy and face the side - don't face a person with your whole body especially at a bus-stop because it could be intimidating. 6. Talk slowly with pause and emotions.... don't talk fast with a high vitched voice.. the faster you talk the less you have to say. 7. fidgeting ... don't do fidgeting , don't grab your phone multiple times and don't look on your watch mulitple times - the other person will get the feeling you find him/her boring. 8. don't forget to kino broke down in simple parts 1. get into the mood 2. don't give a shit and be persistent 3. body language ( appear uninterested !) 4. Voice tonality and pace of talking 5. Listen to keywords 6. Kino lol I'd have write that down that's preety short but true nice post Lodewijkp

Author:	DDevil [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:26 am ]
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WOW thanks guys, i really appreciate all the help!!

Author:	miiiiichael [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:53 am ]
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Quote: When you see her coming towards you or in the Gym, take your phone out and pretend to receive a text. PUA: (look up from your phone) Hey can i get a womens opinion on this HB: ok PUA: my friend just text me saying, his girlfriend has said she doesnt want him to go into the army. but its his childhood dream. what should he do? HB: blah blah PUA: ok, sorry about randomly picking on you its just its been stressing me out. Has anything like this ever happened to you? FLUFF thats the general idea, different question can be used and depending what she says u can use a different LO (lead on) at the end lol okay... this is the reason "pua's" either turn into weird socially retarded people (no offence) or learn the natural and REAL (oops i said it, please don't hurt me) way to pick up women. im still a virgin but so i'm just basing what i'm saying out of the juggler method book i read...

Author:	tov [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:45 pm ]
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Quote: lol okay... this is the reason "pua's" either turn into weird socially retarded people (no offence) or learn the natural and REAL (oops i said it, please don't hurt me) way to pick up women. im still a virgin but so i'm just basing what i'm saying out of the juggler method book i read... ::// derail how in the world can you comment on what method works and which method doesn't based on a book that you read when by your own admission you are still a virgin? Sounds like you read a book, got jazzed about it, and now want to show the world your new found knowledge. Get successful in your method, then you can condone other methods if that is your forte. \\:: end derail.

Author:	miiiiichael [ Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:30 am ]
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please don't take my sarcasm seriously; it is after all the lowest form of wit

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Author:	miiiiichael [ Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:32 am ]
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ps using stuff like this DOES work, thats the problem...