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| Author: | Bibii [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Problem with openers. |
Hi.. my biggest problem is opener. Many times when i was standing at club girls are looking me, i make eye contact, but when i need to start seduction, to open conversation, i simply stopped... Just because i dont know what to say when get close to her, i could say ' Hi, my names is.. what's your name?..' But i dont know what next.. so give me some advices for introducing and opening, thats my problem... And 1 more question, does 3second rule really works? Maybe that rule can help me.... 
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| Author: | Catacomb Kid [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:33 pm ] |
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Go check out the opener part of the forum, there is a sticky filled with openers, give them a try. As for the 3 second rule, yes it works on many differant levels (some situations it doesnt but for a club, ya stick with it). First, in three seconds, you can not really develope anykind of AA. Second, if a girl notices you checking her out the whole night, she might think you are creepy or you do not have the balls to talk to her, both are DLVs. |
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| Author: | Mayhem&Anarchy [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:04 pm ] |
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Just read up as much as you can. |
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| Author: | Johnny B. [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:18 pm ] |
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Quote: Just read up as much as you can.
This wont help you with your AA. Read all you want but all you really need is just a one solid " hi "Girls aint attracted to your fancy opener but instead the " guy " behind it. So the more important thing is" HOW " you say it instead of " WHAT " [ Johnny B ] |
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| Author: | Catacomb Kid [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:58 am ] |
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Couldnt agree with Johnny B. more. |
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| Author: | Ezo [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:34 am ] |
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Breaking AA is a choice! Either you see it as a priority compared to your own comfort or you dont. Either you face your fear or you hide from it! Thats all there is to it! We cannot help you do that, no amount of canned openers will make you braver in field. |
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| Author: | Bibii [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:12 pm ] |
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Ok, thanks a lot! And i have 2 more questions. Which things you are using often to talk about with woman? And do i need to ask HB 'Is she single' or just ask her when we are talking 'What your boyfriend thinks about [thing]?' (or smth similar)? I hope u will understand me
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| Author: | Cosmo Kramer [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:54 pm ] |
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learn to lie, make up stories "fake it until you make it" learn a story or two and use a stock opener linking to the story as a start. with time you'll gain experience and you will open so easy at times you wont even notice.=D ~Jayhem |
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| Author: | N1ck9141 [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:45 pm ] |
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Opening is one of the hardest things to do, not because you find the women attractive or cause yr insecure normally it boils down to one thing THERE A STRANGER... so get used to talking to strangers every shop you go to ask for help with something or advise on this or that... stop and chat to random people at the bus stop (u may feel u need an opening to this situation simple "where u heading" "do u no whats bus is next" etc) just get used to starting conversationseven believe it or not site like this or social forums starts threads with thoughts and feelings in it helped me just to get used to how people are gunna respond to the sorta things i said and when i said them |
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| Author: | Ezo [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:59 pm ] |
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I dont! I dont ask girls if they have a BF or not. I do not care! If she does, thats fine. If she doesnt thats fine. Her desire to be with me is independent of any BF. |
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| Author: | Catacomb Kid [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:08 pm ] |
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Quote: I dont!
Ezo has a great point. For one, girls are always looking for the next best thing. They think emotionally, not logically like males. If they feel that they will truely be happier with another guy, they will switch.I dont ask girls if they have a BF or not. I do not care! If she does, thats fine. If she doesnt thats fine. Her desire to be with me is independent of any BF. However, if you honestly do not feel comfortable with the idea of breaking up a relationship, you can still game her. The reasoning behind this is because once you find out she has a boyfriend, set up a friendship, but keep those values high and keep a little sexual tension, not as much as a normal set. A couple things can come out of this: One, she could break up soon, and you can get a date set up. Another, if you land a friendship, you could have a female wing (pretty damn useful) or if she thinks of you as a good guy, she might try and set you up with her friends. With all that said, just dont worry about the boyfriend situation, with all the possibilies you can gain, its better then turning down sets because of it. |
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| Author: | DonPua [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:47 pm ] |
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There are some ways to get over AA. First of all, if you can find a wing that doesn't suffer from AA, try to go out with him. Try to hear him when he opens a set. You will notice that even if he opens in an awkward way very rarely something bad is gonna happen. Just seeing this gives you extra courage to approach. Also, watch some live pickup videos online and see how good women respond to getting approached even when initially they seem to have no time to talk. There is also a youtube video posted by Carlos Xuma in which he gives some tips to get over AA. I would advise you to check it out because he gives some very helpful advice. |
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| Author: | Ezo [ Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:32 pm ] |
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On the other hand I will probably die from "someones boyfriend". |
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| Author: | Bibii [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:11 pm ] |
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Thanks guys... i got a new problem today when i was chatting with HB 9 on fb. I started conversation, but she was so bored, at every my question she responded with 'yes..no...ok...maybe...hm..'.. so what have i to do? Is problem with me or with her? What should i do at this or similar situations? How can i make her to feel better? Maybe my questions was bored, but i dont think so... I asked her what kind of men she likes and she respond me 'hmm.. i dont know'. Whats the problem? .......You are awesome guys, helped me a lot... thanks!
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| Author: | DonPua [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:20 pm ] |
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Quote: Thanks guys... i got a new problem today when i was chatting with HB 9 on fb. I started conversation, but she was so bored, at every my question she responded with 'yes..no...ok...maybe...hm..'.. so what have i to do? Is problem with me or with her? What should i do at this or similar situations? How can i make her to feel better? Maybe my questions was bored, but i dont think so... I asked her what kind of men she likes and she respond me 'hmm.. i dont know'. Whats the problem? .......You are awesome guys, helped me a lot... thanks!
There can be many reasons. Maybe she had a bad day. But probably she was bored because you were boring. Anyway, at this point it doesn't matter to you how to be fun. Just approach and get over your AA. If you are passed AA you can focus on making conversations more interesting. Use some canned routines to spice the conversation up.
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