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Author:  fitnessman [ Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:54 pm ]
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what are the books and other source materials that I need to know that the veteran members know and would suggest to a noob. I was always the quiet kid in school and am extremely shy. I'm 17 but already graduated highschool. I feel I've met the golden opportunity which is high school to become familiar with women. Honestly don't know what's my problem, just get super nervous talking to women. Never even been kissed and people who know me don't believe it for sh1t. I'm a pretty good looking guy and I've been in MMA and weight lifting for about 2 years now so I have a nice body with the six pack and everything going, only problem is a little acne problem which I'm gonna get fixed soon.
Author:  Aehon [ Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:17 pm ]
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what are the books and other source materials that I need to know that the veteran members know and would suggest to a noob. I was always the quiet kid in school and am extremely shy. I'm 17 but already graduated highschool. I feel I've met the golden opportunity which is high school to become familiar with women. Honestly don't know what's my problem, just get super nervous talking to women. Never even been kissed and people who know me don't believe it for sh1t. I'm a pretty good looking guy and I've been in MMA and weight lifting for about 2 years now so I have a nice body with the six pack and everything going, only problem is a little acne problem which I'm gonna get fixed soon.
What about your personality? Are you funny? Cocky? Arrogant?

To me you sound arrogant; no offense, but all you've said is that you're nice to the eyes and you've got a six-pack? So fucking what? I have a nipple piercing and a lorum, but as I wear CLOTHES that aren't skintight when I go out, it doesnt matter so much whether I show my sixpack, or the scars across my back and chest (Although the one on my shoulder makes for a good peacock).

So tell us what you're like as a person?

Oh, and some books...
Well, obviously Neil Strauss' the game; blah blah blah extended title.
I like Magic Bullets by Solay.
Any NLP shit.
Any book by Mystery, David DeAngelo, Ross Jeffries etc.
A pyschology/Sociology book.
Some magic tricks or something.
Tarot card books, books on the occult in general.
Books on public speaking.
Pretty much anything.

And then, some skills I found are needed, but may not be the case in all places;
Dancing, I started with ballroom and, thanks to a few female friends, learnt a hell of a lot, for free. Wanting to learn latin now.
Fashion; Get a girl-friend of yours to help, or, if you're confident enough, do it yourself. My rule for peacocking is that "it's the little things", but that's just me.
Music: Know your music. Any type you can think of. But make sure you're ocmfortable listening to it. For example, I listen to everything from Eric Clapton, to Opeth, to 30 seconds to mars and Ja Rule. Anything and everything that you can cope with listening to.

That's about all I can think of. Hope that helps.
Author:  fitnessman [ Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:44 pm ]
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sorry bro I didn't mean to be cocky. this is the internet so I just tried to describe myself as good as possible...ok that makes me sound conceited forget that. as for my personality the people that I'm close to, probably 3 of my closest buddies that I grew up with, describe me as funny and a little over confident. I'm just like that with them cause I grew up with them and know them. it's very difficult for me to open up to people, always have been. they rag on me about it but when I try to push myself out of my comfort zone I just freeze. during my school years I've had tons of people I knew tell me they know a girl that likes me and wants to hook up. back then I was just too preoccupied with basketball and trying to get a scholarship that I totally missed out on those opportunities. again sorry about the arrogant post earlier, I swear when I wrote it earlier it sounded completely different in my head, now that I read it aloud I know what you mean
Author:  Monkey [ Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:01 pm ]
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That isn't what he meant when he asked if you were cocky. He was asking about your vibe when you're talking with women. How does your personality come across when you're in an interaction? Myself, I'm fun, flirty and forward. I also love alliteration. ^_^

You need to be able to sell your personality more than your looks. Your looks will only matter for the first fifteen or twenty seconds of the interaction. Everything else relies on who you are as a person, and how you communicate who you are.
Author:  Aehon [ Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:15 pm ]
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sorry bro I didn't mean to be cocky. this is the internet so I just tried to describe myself as good as possible...ok that makes me sound conceited forget that. as for my personality the people that I'm close to, probably 3 of my closest buddies that I grew up with, describe me as funny and a little over confident. I'm just like that with them cause I grew up with them and know them. it's very difficult for me to open up to people, always have been. they rag on me about it but when I try to push myself out of my comfort zone I just freeze. during my school years I've had tons of people I knew tell me they know a girl that likes me and wants to hook up. back then I was just too preoccupied with basketball and trying to get a scholarship that I totally missed out on those opportunities. again sorry about the arrogant post earlier, I swear when I wrote it earlier it sounded completely different in my head, now that I read it aloud I know what you mean
Hey, no worries. But I'd say that funny and overconfidence is perfect for a cocky funny routine. Even a bit of Mystery Method.

Monkey's right, and that's what I meant to get across; looks matter not.
If you have a problem with your comfort zone issue, then use this little exercise; When you go out tomorrow, say hello or hi or whatever to everyone you meet. Simple, and it'll help you get past any nervousness.

Practice openers and youre approach, remember not not to approach from behind (until later in the evening :wink: ), approach from the front, at an angle. Talk over your shoulder during your opener as if you could leave at any moment. Give yourself a time constraint; "I've only got a minute and then I've gotta go back to my friends" or some shit. That way, if you think you're nervousness is going to fuck you up; Bail out. I don't care if other PUA's say otherwise, but I know personally that being nervous severely fucks your game up. So if you find that you're forgetting routine or shit like that, bail.

But yeah, back on topic; the books I mentioned should help, as well as the other stuff on dance etc I said. Although I'm not an expert, so maybe someone else could also divulge their wisdom?
Author:  kannon [ Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:45 am ]
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whats MMA?
Author:  Verbal Kent [ Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:35 am ]
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The Game by Neil Strauss
Double Your Dating David Deangelo
Mystery Method by Mystery
anything on Pickup101.com is Gold I think
Listen to the Pick Up Podcast on Itunes... it's free and it has great information..
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