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Author:  Marc [ Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Successful w/ Simple Openers
Open Open Open, thats the key to success. Unless you approach and open you'd never know whether you ever had shot.

An opener is used as a cruch many. But IMO if you have solid deep inner game then you can open with almost ANYTHING. I'm writing this report to illustrate my point and share my last weekend exp. where I must have opened 19-20 sets, approached around 21-23 sets, #closed 5-6, k closed 3.

Before getting to the club I went to a popular bar and realised that the sets looked very difficult in terms of the set up. You know, where they are all in TIGHT hurdles and in pockets.

I saw a group of AMOGs in the middle of a bar and Approached them.

Opener: Dont remember
AMOG1: Where are you from blah blah
Marc: blah blah. To AMOG 2 You have a great body, and posture were you an athlete
AMOG2: Felt really good and was smiling ear to ear Yeah I played football....blah....

Details arent important but I made this group of 12-15 guys laugh have fun and was controlling the conv. Using the social value I created with this group I approached my next group at the bar

3set by the bar

Opener: Hows it going guys, could you kindly make a lil way for me to get to the bar
HB7: sure,
Marc: After getting to the bar; over the shoulder you guys look like you are upto some trouble.
HB8: You look like your trouble too, or something like that

Fluff talk made them laugh, and then ejected. I took HB8's number while I was leaving the bar later in the night.

2 set one is married and the other drinking something in a huge glass

Opener: Is that water or vodka, thats too much vodka to drink.
HB8: haha, its actually vodka with something, its too much to drink.
Marc: Now, no one can help you with that, if you sip on it for long you'll get there eventually. Who is your friend
HB8: Oh this is HBmarried...
Marc: fluff.....

3 set at a table behind us the Nascar race in Chicago I guess was showing on TV

Opener: Guys dont we Americans love Nascars.
HB9: Not everyone, depends on who you are talking to at which part of the country.

We got into a conv. on sports and sportsmen and the money they make and the way they blow it all off because of their silly life style. lot of fluff but fun conv.#closed HB9.


2 sisters, one with tatoo

Opener: Is that a scorpio on your forearm

HBtatoo: yeah I got it when I was 16yrs old
Marc: That looks good, let me guess, thats your star sign.
HBtatoo: yeah, no suprises.
Marc: we got into a conv . on Zodiac signs. women love that BS

4 set, at the bar there was an advt playing on the TV in which Tiger woods was swinging a drive

Opener: looking at the TV and talking loudly by the side of the girls Is this guy the best or what, hey guys would you ever date a sportsman or a golfer

HB8,HB7,HBanother7: Yeah, yeah sure. Its sexy
Marc: yeah but he would be on tours most of the time and you girls wouldnt be the no.1 thing on his mind. Can girls handle that, being not the no.1 thing in their man's life.

ALLHBs thinking

Marc: I guess you could thats how he would be a challenge.
then we got into a discussion about dating and challenge. I #closed 2 girls from this group.

This went on through out the nite. All the time I was increasing my social value by talking to the entier bar, making people laugh, walking around. I guess because of my social value and strong body language I could open with got damn anything.

I dont want to get into the rest of the night and my openers, k closes and all the #closes. But I guess you get the picture. I opened with things like "Hi Whats your name", "What are you drinking", "I like your shirt", "Think you are cute", "Shouldnt we all maintain a moment of silence for Michal Jackson's death". Anything works !!

A quick fun incident: after I bounced from the bar to a club where I opened another dozen sets and # closed, K closed

Blonde stood next to me to order drinks, but not one was paying attention She is one of my k closes for the nite
Marc: I've been trying to catch the attention of these guys for the last 5 mins.
HB9: I dont know what they are upto.

Marc: Guess we'll have to do something extraordinary to get their attention. (building sexual tention)
HB9: Really, what did you have in mind.
Marc: quite a few things but for now lets try to give them seductive looks
then I made some faces and showed her how I'd try to seduce the bar tender

HB9: hahahhahahahhahahhahahaha
Marc: You try. she did the same
Hb9: I feel like swearing at these guys
Marc: Shhhhh... I've heard bar tenders have great ears be careful you dont want them to put viagra in our drinks.
Hb9:hahahaaaa........

This went on for sometime and we were no longer bothered about ordering drinks. She and I felt like A TEAM trying to get the bar tender's attention. It was like the two of us against the 6 bar tenders and 100s of others at the bar.

I did the necklace kino and a quick peck on her lips, we got our drinks and she invited me back to her table. I joined them, made the group laugh and then isolated her and made out.

CONCLUSION: If you have deep inner game and are socially good you dcan open with almost anything.
Author:  Krauser [ Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:14 am ]
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Gold. It really brings out that feeling when you've opened a few sets and suddenly you're in perfect state and unstoppable. I had that on Friday, though not as flowing as this report.
Author:  seb1989 [ Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:03 pm ]
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Hey mate, very very well done :D

How long have you allready been gaming? You do very well, i think man y guys could learn from this including me.

were you this good at the beginning, I really want to know how you really got this good, were you this good at the beginning?

In the beginning i was scared to open a set, now i also open 10 sets a night, but i dont number close, how do you know when to number close, how do you number close? I mean many girls (also hot girls) say I am very handsome, but How do I transit? I kissed allready a few but i dont feel it has become a natural point to me because I havent got a good structure, so I want to ask a very good person who is allready very good in this..

Lookin forward to your answer

cheers
Author:  Ethan Hewitt [ Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:59 am ]
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Nice reports. Perhaps you could have posted this in the field reports section Marc. Seems like you have a solid frame and good use of natural game. Keep enjoying what you're doing.

Might I suggest though that you consider merging, forwards and backwards between sets. You're obviously comfortable with approaching and you're building your social proof but if you want to get that extra mile then forward or backward merging will get you there. You were even bouncing, love it man, love it.
Author:  PUA_Ben_brown [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:45 am ]
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This is money dude !! how did you develop your game. Did you take any coaching, what books did you read. I liked your openers, you came across as very real and fun ! Thanks for this amazing post.
Author:  MelvinWhite [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:20 am ]
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now these are the type of openers everyone be doing. confident, natural, charismatic...almost innocent in their outgoing-ness. just simple, straightforward statements that intrigue a conversation
Author:  anhpeter [ Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:37 am ]
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love it.

It's all about inner game, forget the rest. Inner game, body language, sexual tension, and personality is all you need to game a girl. keep it up good man.
Author:  Marc [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:44 pm ]
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now these are the type of openers everyone be doing. confident, natural, charismatic...almost innocent in their outgoing-ness. just simple, straightforward statements that intrigue a conversation
Hi Melvin, glad you appreciate the simple openers I used. These openers are non threathning and I want beginners to understand that these openers can get you 'in' sets but if dont know multi threading and to trigger attraction then you could get into the 'comfort zone' quickly and LJBF.

Now having been in the game for sometime, I knew how to create attraction by C&F and intriguing my sets etc..

Confidence and being natural is the way to be !! Infact I have learnt most of my stuff by hanging around naturals. Naturals are GOLD, they dont follow Mystery Method or any other techniques. They JUST KNOW on which page the girl is and continue from there. BTW, body language, tonality, eye contact, etc.. is big.

I'll get to the questions later. So guys there is no Magic Opener/Pick up line. If I can do it so can each and everyone of you. Go figure !
Author:  Marc [ Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:26 am ]
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Nice reports. Perhaps you could have posted this in the field reports section Marc. Seems like you have a solid frame and good use of natural game. Keep enjoying what you're doing.

Might I suggest though that you consider merging, forwards and backwards between sets. You're obviously comfortable with approaching and you're building your social proof but if you want to get that extra mile then forward or backward merging will get you there. You were even bouncing, love it man, love it.
Hi Ethan, I was confused where to post this since I made soo many approaches. Since I havent yet been kicked out of here I guess the moderators have excused me. But one benefit of posting it here is that most guys who have a problem in approaching and opening fist this section and my post is more to encourage them and show them that approach need not always be as difficult as they think it is. Guys in field report probably dont have the issue of approaching.

I have not merged forwards and backwards this time or may be I have, I forgot. But I'll remember to do that the next time. Thanks for the advise, I'll remember this the next time I am infield.
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Gold. It really brings out that feeling when you've opened a few sets and suddenly you're in perfect state and unstoppable. I had that on Friday, though not as flowing as this report.
Thats right. Its all about the state of mind. I am not a good PUA. There are nights when I'd choke but dont have very many of those. Its about understanding the logistics and keep it rolling.
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Hey mate, very very well done :D

How long have you allready been gaming? You do very well, i think man y guys could learn from this including me.

were you this good at the beginning, I really want to know how you really got this good, were you this good at the beginning?

In the beginning i was scared to open a set, now i also open 10 sets a night, but i dont number close, how do you know when to number close, how do you number close? I mean many girls (also hot girls) say I am very handsome, but How do I transit? I kissed allready a few but i dont feel it has become a natural point to me because I havent got a good structure, so I want to ask a very good person who is allready very good in this..

Lookin forward to your answer

cheers
Thanks Mate. I have always been good with women. They annoy me and like them at the same time. I have been in "the Game" for sometime now. When I first got into bars and clubs for the first 2 hours I didnt know what was going on!! But after that I pretty much started picking up. I had good friends who were naturals. Its something about naturals, they are the best people to learn from. naturals are much more precious than HOT babes. When you hang out with one HB shez just one but a natural could teach you to get number of HBs. Naturals are hard to find but when you find one hold onto him. I'd say buy him his drinks, dinner etc. and watch him game.

I dont follow the Mystery Method. I think its good for beginnners may be but no pun intended. Mystery needs to use his method about story telling etc etc.. because thats how his game is structured. It takes a long time to get to seduction by MM. I dont like his model, neither do I follow it but know that it works for a lot of people.

In my kiss close(s) you would notice that I started sexualizing the conversation early on. She and I were a team and were against the big bad world who are stopping us from getting our drinks haha! it was bonding and all thoughout the conv. somewhere or the other I kept on sexualizing the conv. (I did not include the details).


So its a good think that women find you handsome. Because I would not call myself handsome. I am average looking, probably even bad looking but am very well groomed, sauve and yeah sofisticated. I dont rely on my looks but I rely on my personality and confidence.

I got to this point pretty much by talking to women all the time.

Dont worry about transition and numbers etc.. They would come. women would themselves tell you "why dont you take my number, we should hang out sometimes" etc.. My advise is, just go ahead and ask for their number whenever you FEEL is the right time. You'll know, believe me there is no magic trick or silver bullet for numbers (not that I know off).

Thank you for your feedback everyone.

P.S. I have not taken any coaching but have read a few books to learn this stuff. And ofcourse my friends from high school have taught me a lot of stuff.
Author:  New_PUA_Addict [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:47 am ]
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This blows my mind !! how in the world did you get to this point. These are not even pick up lines. You were just having a normal conversation with the girls. You are very good.

What did you read to develop your inner game. You do not get nervous when you are in a group of beautiful women ? You have not used any pick up lines I notice.

How can I learn this stuff. I want to approach girls like you do!
Author:  The Enigma [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:50 pm ]
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I'm new to this forum also, but its not really about pick-up lines or having the perfect opener. These things can be helpful because if you've got a great opener it can build your confidence, but thats what its all about in the first place - CONFIDENCE. If you have confidence you can open sets all night long. Ive only been legal to go out for just around a month so im still learning the ropes of picking up in clubs but have had the priviledge of going out with some friends who are naturals and have been in the bar and clubbing scene for over a year now and I have played around with a few tactics of theirs and my own which have been successful. It just comes down to your self confidence and nothing can stop you. After reading Marc's field report i think its safe to say he is pretty spot on with his game and we can all take a page out of his book!
Author:  TheTruthPUA [ Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:39 am ]
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I like these openers they are really natural ... these kind of material will get you somewhere versus canned material you hear off the TV or read in a book ... we need more threads full of natural tips and field reports ...
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