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| Author: | itgiawa [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | need help transitioning... |
So I like to open with opinion openers, and I always get a great response, but I always end up rolling off after about 1 or two minutes. either the girl takes control of the conversation or it just dies, i cant think of anyway to seg into a story, mostly because i dont really have any stories.... can you guys point me to any articles or advice? Thanks! |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: need help transitioning... |
Quote: So I like to open with opinion openers, and I always get a great response, but I always end up rolling off after about 1 or two minutes. either the girl takes control of the conversation or it just dies, i cant think of anyway to seg into a story, mostly because i dont really have any stories....
itgiawa,can you guys point me to any articles or advice? Thanks! This is a pretty frequently asked question around the forum. I am sure you will able to find some awesome tips from various people if you search for "transition" or "transitioning." Here are a few quick links I found. transition-from-a1-to-a2-vt47454.html?h ... transition what-should-i-do-after-openning-vt46863 ... transition My quick 2 cents about it is this. After opening you need to see if the set is hooked. Have they turned to face you with their bodies are they interested? Or are they not hooked and looking away? This establishes what we need to do next. If not hooked then stack with another opener and try to get them involved. If they are hooked then a good transition is always, "How do you all know each other?" This is especially helpful if there are guys in the set to know who is the boyfriend, brother, friend, etc. Then from there you can go into stories or DHV material. Another transition I like to use is, "Oh that reminds me!" People have random thoughts all the time so this works really well. You can just blurt this out and then use it to transition to whatever you want. It seems like it could be weird to jump subjects but because of the random thought process people have this makes this work! Hope it helps out, Jon |
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| Author: | BassOpens [ Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:24 am ] |
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Agreed. Also take into account your body language..... If you dont display the propper body language, you will not succeed. Example, if the set is sitting, you sit too. IF the set is walking, dont try to stop it or chase after it, If theyre standing up, stand up too. IF theyre dancing go dancing too and then move them. IF you ask them something, create A False Time constrain with your body. rocking your body as if you had to go somewhere else, displaying less interest on the girls, making you look visibly harmless. Dont stare at people unless theres an indicator of interest in the middle. Staring for too long might make you look creepy or needy. Girls LOVE to be NEGGED, so if you feel that the conversation is dying out or shes taking control of it, NEG HER. ITS WHAT I CALL a THUNDER NEG haha... the moment you feel you have nothing to say, quickly throw a neg. like... "uhm yeah whatever he kissed her...OH... you just spit on my eye... oh my....".... " blah blah blah......1....2....3. seconds... Hey do you always talk this much?. every time im about to say something you interrupt me. you might even interrupt the minister when hes reading the gospel at church. ok thats not true, i dont even think you go to church...." or something like that.... Girls love being negged because its different man response from what they usually get from average guys. So recap. ++take care of GOOD BODY LANGUAGE ++IF possible, wear some item thats cool that might be interesting enough to start a conversation, ( peacocking ) ++Dont worry about negging them even if you barely know them, They love negs. ++DOnt display much interest tru your eyes. I know they're HOT but thats no reason to stare at their boobs. ++If your opinion/indirect opener doesnt work and you feel like ejecting. DOnt do so until youve worn out all resources available, one of them is to switch to a DIRECT OPENER. Example.... PUA: is kissing cheating? HB: blah blah IDK blah blah PUA: ok but my friend found blah blah HB: blah blah thats funny /not funny but blah blah. (PUA RUNS OUT OF CANNED MATERIAL TO SAY AND INSTEAD OF EJECTING... ) PUA: ok guys, look the real reason I aproached the two of you, is that youre actually very cute and you look interesting, i was wondering if youre cool though HB: ahh thank you haha oure shy blah blah.../ok go fuck yourself. PUA USED AL RESOURCES POSSIBLE AND WHATEVER OUTCOME HE GOT HE TRIED BY ALL MEANS. ++IT can be fun and if it doesnt work you wont ever see them again. and even if you do, they probly wont remember you if they didnt invest on any sort of relationship with you. Also remember that it is not recomendable to open if youre not feelin in the right state of mind to do so. If you feel pressured, tired, bored, scared, sad. Dont force yourself to open. As I have posted previously, Its indeed a need of us to improve and improve fast at our game, but it doesnt mean were not subject and receptors of many external factors that produce changes in our state of mind and emotions. Open if you really feel adventorous enough to do so, but dont punish yourself for not doing so when you werent really feeling the vibe. Good luck. P.S. make a story out of your every day experiences. go out more and live more. going out more equals more social awareness and more cleverness to develop on the smallest story and make it a huge compelling tale. take care ! |
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| Author: | Ethan Hewitt [ Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:28 pm ] |
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I think it's important to remember that if you're struggling with the conversation don't try to keep on barreling through like some people might suggest. You're basically saying to them Hey, want some dick? As for your stories, you definitely need to start finding your stories. Think of eight qualities that you want someone to know about you. You're going to convey these through stories. Think of memorable moments in your life. Write out your stories. Have strong beginning and good ending. Add intrigue, vivid detail and humour. Add value, cut fat and neediness. Check length. Then it's time to practice telling the stories. But that's enough for this post. Thanks to Strauss' The Rules of the Game for the above. |
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