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Author:  Abdul-aAfc [ Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:47 am ]
Post subject:  I can't speak to any chick
When i meet a chick for the first time i can't say anything apart from answer questions. It's weird it's not because i am shy it's just that i don't know what to say to transition. WIth friends i am fine or with people i am introduced to i am fine but with chicks i meet myself i just kind of stutter.

Could you please think of any interesting conversation topics?
Author:  Game L-Over [ Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:19 am ]
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u need to work on everything but what 2 say, work on how to say it, when u say it, how ur body is when u say it, all this is much more important then the actual topic, when u master this u will be able to talk about what u had for dinner n they will still be keen

but if u cant do that (which i think u should) talk about the 80s they fucking rocked. joke
Author:  play2win [ Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:11 pm ]
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Could you please think of any interesting conversation topics?
See, that's not you problem. I talk random stuff to chicks and they LOVE it.
You can say anything, but say it confident and cool. And guess what you need to do to get the confidence - sarge!
Author:  Kalel [ Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:54 pm ]
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I agree, its not about what to say. You talk to people all day long, and start conversations without realizing it. The problem is that when you are talking to a girl you want to sleep with, you put too much importance on the interaction. You so worried about being rejected that you try to come up with the perfect line or conversation. The problem with that is that it makes you seem needy and weak because even if you did manage to come up with the perfect conversation, the girl would probably be able to sense your anxiety and need to please her.
If you, on the other hand, try to just relax and be friendly and talkative with everyone you meet regardless of how bangable they are, you will naturally be more open and talkative when an hb crosses your path. Just take all the pressure off of yourself and remember that even if she doesn't like you, it's not the end of the world and there are plenty of other women out there. Also don't try to say things that you think she wants to hear, and don't agree with her on everything to try to win her approval; women hate that. The best conversations I've ever had with women have been light and humorous debates or disagreements. Women like to hear your opinions and your points of view, they don't want their own thrown right back at them.
Author:  Abdul-aAfc [ Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:13 pm ]
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I agree, its not about what to say. You talk to people all day long, and start conversations without realizing it. The problem is that when you are talking to a girl you want to sleep with, you put too much importance on the interaction. You so worried about being rejected that you try to come up with the perfect line or conversation. The problem with that is that it makes you seem needy and weak because even if you did manage to come up with the perfect conversation, the girl would probably be able to sense your anxiety and need to please her.
If you, on the other hand, try to just relax and be friendly and talkative with everyone you meet regardless of how bangable they are, you will naturally be more open and talkative when an hb crosses your path. Just take all the pressure off of yourself and remember that even if she doesn't like you, it's not the end of the world and there are plenty of other women out there. Also don't try to say things that you think she wants to hear, and don't agree with her on everything to try to win her approval; women hate that. The best conversations I've ever had with women have been light and humorous debates or disagreements. Women like to hear your opinions and your points of view, they don't want their own thrown right back at them.

You have put my position perfectly. The issue with me is i never let go of anything, even if she doesn't seem interested. I just don't like losing. However when i am talking to my friends who are girls i'm perfectly normal and chatty.
Author:  Canna [ Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:34 pm ]
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sounds to me like your still to worried about what they migt think of you, you shouldnt give a shit really and that is wat will come thru in your body lanuage(theres always another one in the other direction) you should take the advise from the game where the guy didnt bath or shave for three weeks and wore a dildo on his head you will hav no fear after that i can garuntee(maybe not to that extreme tho)
Author:  RuleBreaker [ Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:  What to say...
I struggled with this the first few times I went out. I would get into a set and eventually just run out of things to say, or I would get into a set, run the startard A1 stuff, feel a bit awkward because there was no fluff, then basically say nothing and bomb out. After a while I started to realize something.

To me, there is more to A than just the 3 steps (assuming we're talking about MM). I consider opening a balancing act. You do want to come in strong and you do want to seem interesting, but you also don't want to seem weird or like a PUA.

Do you know how there are people you listen to all the time (for me it WAS typically girls and guys who were "douchebags" but good at picking up girls for some reason...) and you wonder why the hell they're talking about whatever they are talking about because there's no point in even talking about it? Chicks love that shit. They really do. If you are saying interesting things, things that may be boring to you but keep the conversation going, they love it!

On a recent sarge I was introduced to a social circle that I had met once before and terribly bombed out. My friend was doing well since he knew them and I was again bombing out. A new girl in the group walked up so I decided to go for it. I looked at her funny and just said "Who the hell are you?" (playfully of course) She told me her name, I told her mine, I asked how she knew these people, blah blah blah. Well she eventually said she lied about her name, that's she's a compulsive liar for fun, and I ate that shit up. I DHV'ed a story about lying about my own name, and got to talking about art.

I hate art. To me there is nothing more boring than looking at paintings, BUT she had been a painter since 13. So I did something I pulled straight out of Gambler's book. I told her "Wow. I know when I listen to music that my focus as a writer has sort of...ruined pop music for me. I can't help but analyze it while I'm listening to it and think it's too simple sometimes. Since you're a painter it must be really interesting to see the shape and composition of art and architecture that normal people take for granted everyday, but does the technical knowledge ever ruin it for you?" (Or something along those lines, you see where I'm going)

Now personally, I couldn't give two shits how she feels about art, but it's IMPORTANT to her, and I'm stimulating her thought in a way that I know NO OTHER GUY at the bar is. That leads to attraction.

Remember, the pickup artist is the exception to the rule. Always.

Breaker
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