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| Author: | Coolkid [ Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Good opener and after game??? |
I tried it out a few times. but maybe you guys could give me some advice: I start of spotting the target. I approach and say: " Hey guys I need a female opinion on something: who lies more girls or boys?" Then they will 90% of the time say boys. I respond: "ok, guys i really need to go but who in your opinion is then a better lier? boys or girls?" 90% of the time they will say girls. I respond: "Really? You think so? Because I think girls are really predictable. You guys for example: I believe you are the wild girl (pointing to the ugly girl) and you are the nice and sweet girl (pointing to the target--> this is a neg) am I right?" 90% of the time they will just say yes. If not it dosent matter. I go on. "if you understand girls its really easy. --> then i go on with guessing the number trick form 1-4 and 1-10." is taht a good routine too use? any improvements? what should i do afterwards? please feel free to constructively criticize thx alex |
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| Author: | Handcuff [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:30 pm ] |
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This is just from a guy whose new at this but personally if i was doing this set I would try to isolate my target after building some value with the number games. But thats just me, As well this routine seems a bit canned, if they responded to ur opener differently make sure your ready to respond, i've seen some guys fall horribly because they had a routine practice perfectly and opened a set who gave him a unexpected response. |
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| Author: | paradiseracing [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:16 pm ] |
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I would use this opener and transition into some kind of compliance test. I don't know how much you have researched about body language but if you can transition the conversation into a discussion on body language it's very easy to kino escalate and isolate. Women are better at reading BL, so you can tell them that you think women just get away with it more because men are awful at BL hints. Then do some compliance tests and discuss with her what her body is telling you. Pull her aside and teach her to read other peoples body language. I've never found a women that doesn't love to learn about BL because that's how women can communicate to a deeper depth than men. (not sure if this is true but you HAVE to use this because it sounds so good!!! LOL) Pretty soon she'll go from saying that this is interesting, to YOU are interesting. This just how I would do it. Good luck!! |
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| Author: | Musterion [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:06 pm ] |
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If you are in America I wouldn't recommend using the Who lies more? opener. It's pretty much the most canned opener around, if you aren't in the U.S though then it should be fine. As for the neg you just got it the wrong way around, say the good one is the friend and the bad one is target. One thing I'll say is try to be flexible when going in with this routine or any other routine because you will NEVER have all the angles covered. If you go in expecting a certain kind of answer and you don't get it you'll be put down quickly, so go in without any expectation of what answer they'll give, and if they just happen to give the answer you want great but stay on your toes. |
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