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Author:  alphaecho [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:49 am ]
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Recently, I've been trying the following opener.
Setting: Walking around a club.

You tell a HB, "Oh my God, I love your top/dress/eyes. If I wasn't gay you'd so be mine."

Usually, they smile and I can open and DHV from there. I find it helps instantly lower a girls bitch shield.

What do you guys think about this opener?
Author:  LatinLover101 [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:04 am ]
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Terrible... why would you pretend to be gay? I feel like it would be difficult to come back from that. If it works for you, why stop.
Author:  Swoop [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:17 am ]
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As gay as this might be, it does work well. Obviously you would be joking; it becomes clear also, after a few exchanges that youre not actually gay. (I think throwing out a queer lisp would be pushing it tho.)

But it basically says "I'm comfortable with being who I am (strong frame), and 'being gay' doesn't scare me." Shields melt.

And don't worry, talking about gay people doesn't turn you gay. Really.

It also says youre an open minded person (in general, not with experimenting about being gay). :wink:

I don't use this but there have been some funny interactions I've had along the same lines. Thats what its all about anyways, just have fun.

Nota Bene: If you can't talk about homosexuality because it bothers you, it means youre a homophobe. And that means you let outside things influence your emotions, which means your fame isn't that strong. You should figure your shit out so stupid things don't shake you.

Don't get me wrong, some gay people annoy me with their flamboyancy, and I don't believe in advertising youre gay, cus really, who gives a shit?
But gay people do exist, not my thing, but its out there regardless. Get tough.
Author:  R.G. [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:33 pm ]
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^100% agree with Swoop
Author:  V1V [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:41 pm ]
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Terrible... why would you pretend to be gay? I feel like it would be difficult to come back from that. If it works for you, why stop.
why would you pretend to be gay?? (to lower her bitch sheild)
difficult to come back from that?? (your not losing value - its flirting.)

Far too much of a direct opener for me. Could work. Could be seen as a wanna be pickup artist using a cheesy one liner. I wouldnt try and open with this. Id put this in A3 personally.
Author:  JSmooth [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:56 pm ]
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Terrible... why would you pretend to be gay? I feel like it would be difficult to come back from that. If it works for you, why stop.
why would you pretend to be gay?? (to lower her bitch sheild)
difficult to come back from that?? (your not losing value - its flirting.)

Far too much of a direct opener for me. Could work. Could be seen as a wanna be pickup artist using a cheesy one liner. I wouldnt try and open with this. Id put this in A3 personally.
I beg to differ. You disqualify yourself and use negs in A2 Female to Male Attraction not in A2 Male to Female attraction. In A3 you are finally displaying interest back to your target slowly.

I've had this line work for me as an opener and my friends many times. It can be used very easily and if you are comfortable with yourself rock on! The girl will figure out you're not gay soon, it's just a false disqualifier to disarm the obstacles and disqualify yourself as potential suitor for a few minutes.

That being said pretending to be gay is an easy way to get laid but it's kind of like cheating.

I like the opener, and if it gets your results continue using it. I will caution you that this is used a whole lot.

Don't knock it until you rock it!!!
Author:  V1V [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:59 pm ]
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Terrible... why would you pretend to be gay? I feel like it would be difficult to come back from that. If it works for you, why stop.
why would you pretend to be gay?? (to lower her bitch sheild)
difficult to come back from that?? (your not losing value - its flirting.)

Far too much of a direct opener for me. Could work. Could be seen as a wanna be pickup artist using a cheesy one liner. I wouldnt try and open with this. Id put this in A3 personally.
I beg to differ. You disqualify yourself and use negs in A2 Female to Male Attraction not in A2 Male to Female attraction. In A3 you are finally displaying interest back to your target slowly.

I've had this line work for me as an opener and my friends many times. It can be used very easily and if you are comfortable with yourself rock on! The girl will figure out you're not gay soon, it's just a false disqualifier to disarm the obstacles and disqualify yourself as potential suitor for a few minutes.

That being said pretending to be gay is an easy way to get laid but it's kind of like cheating.

I like the opener, and if it gets your results continue using it. I will caution you that this is used a whole lot.

Don't knock it until you rock it!!!
You are of course right. A2 not A3. Slipped my mind :/. And i just couldnt make it work as an opener. :/
Author:  JSmooth [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:33 pm ]
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You are of course right. A2 not A3. Slipped my mind :/. And i just couldnt make it work as an opener. :/
The opener isn't for everyone. Some people have told me I dress a little metrosexual and preppy so it's believable for me. Besides when I open I'm pretty animated and enthuisiastic. Being a guy, most women kind of begin to question the gay thing so it's believable for a bit.

Anyways, do whatever works for you alphaecho!
Author:  donniebrasco [ Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:31 am ]
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Iv tried this one on a couple of sets, and yes. it does work...however i got some odd looks and then some laughs - its not great but is a laugh if u are all pretty drunk....again i think it depends on the set and the PUA.

Donnie
Author:  Slickback [ Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:15 am ]
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I know a bisexual guy who are very flamboyant. They have more sex with girls than guys. Never having tried this opener I can see it's benefits from a theory standpoint. Your target will immediately become comfortable with you ( unless shes homophobic) and simply escalate from there.
Author:  jimtree [ Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:32 pm ]
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this is a good one. iv tried it before. another 'gay' opener is approaching a group and asking if they think your friend is gay. usually gets them talking and giggling. voila ur in! :D
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