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| Author: | Warhorse [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | HUGE Bitch shield. well kinda not sure |
ok guys this happend to me about 4 months ao when i was single. 2 HB 9's came over to our table and said ' is there any1 sitting there''. there was an empty table beside me. i wasnt having a good night and didnt want to game them so i just said ' you can sit there, its empty. My friend said to me ' hey man tell her i think she has a great ass'. she dint hear him say it as the music was loud. So i tapped her on the shoulder and SHE DIDNT EVEN TURN AROUND. i tapped her about 5 times. i was gonna say' your sitting on my jacket ' which she was. but she just 100% IGNORED ME and i just pulled my jacket from under her and she still didnt turn around. i know you should just forget it and open an adjacent set or something else but i was just curious..... Did this ever happen to any of you? and what would some of you more experianced guys had of done? if it happens again should i just not bother with the set? because it looked like i was gaming her when i tried to get her attention hence DLV. |
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| Author: | invincible77 [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:54 pm ] |
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I would have said something aloud to my buddy (so she could hear) that was along the lines of... "I don't know why this chick has a chip on her shoulder. I wish she would get off my jacket. You think she's really this rude of a person? I'm really surprised she even asked if she could sit here." Something along those lines should get her to open. She's obviously getting off on ignoring you so if you make her feel like a bad person you could possibly expect the tables to turn a little. You could also say something cocky and funny like "Wow you must really like my jacket since you won't give it back to me." (As you're pulling on it.) If she's right next to you she can obviously hear you... but chooses to ignore. |
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| Author: | Psych_ [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:34 pm ] |
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This is the single worst thing to come across in a PU which is complete indifference. It's the hardest thing to overcome but unfortunately the 9's and 10's engage in this a lot. The reason behind it was because you didn't have enough value for her to care or invest at all. This is why generating social proof and preselection along with any other tangible and nonverbal demonstratable value is so important when dealing with these girls. Honest answer would be to ignore her back, generate SP and preselection while working the room, and possibly open her again later. However I absolutely hate this type of behavior and genuinly want to punish and correct it. Whether this is bad for my inner game is debatable, though probably since it shows I feel a need to invest and care about the interaction. Here's some possible things you can try out though... 1) Make youself impossible to ignore. One easy way is to basically escalate kino and take her indifference as compliance. I've actually seen Mystery do this when a girl blew him out and turned her back on him acting indifferent. What he did was he ran his hand up her back, then neck, then head and began giving her a scalp massage from behind. The entire time she just stood there and did nothing. He could have just continued to escalate but for whatever reason decided to eject. This can come across as EXTREMELY creepy btw but any reaction is better then none. Even if she gets creeped out I wouldn't care since she deserved it. 2) Since she severed rapport with you find a way to sever rapport back. Walk around her so that your facing her at eye to eye level and force the EC then treat her as if you were a daddy correcting inappropriate behavior from a child. Don't insult her but tell her bluntly she's acting extremely rude and then rattle off a ton of negs (which are designed specifically to knock a girl down a peg which she obviously needs). For example...(if she's next to a friend start by saying "is she always like this?" to the friend as a reciprocal question not wanting a response then continue) "Listen, ignoring me like that is extremely rude and crappy behavior. You look way to classy to act this way anyways. I understand it's tough dealing with creepy guys and that you have to keep your guard up, and that I don't know you and you're probably a good person, but there's better ways. Now can you please get off my jacket?" From here depending how she responds makes all the difference in how you continue gaming. 3) Something Sinn really advocates would be doing the exact opposite of 1 and 2 by really demonstrating that you're not affected by her at all negatively and actually find it amusing. Begin laughing and stand up coming around to look at her and say while smiling "Oh my god you're like the bitchy girl from highschool, that's awesome!!! Hey keep that whole demeanor but up it by like 10%, like say something really nasty. (grab some random guy/girl walking by) Ok check out how hardcore this girl is!" Then tap her again. This would probably work best of the 3 but fails to actually punish her which bugs me, again though cause I care to much. Here you're keeping the positive energy while also making it socially awkward for her (and funny) so it's hard for her to remain indifferent or bitchy. 4) Like I said previously ignore her back and generate value and open again later (probably the best bet admitadly but I hate allowing myself to be disrespected and not do anything) 5) Take out a small water gun or squirt bottle and squirt her in the face saying "bad kitty" (I'll eventually be making a youtube video of this soon. It's obviously just for fun and I HIGHLY doubt this has a real chance of working but then again who knows) Hope this helps Psych |
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| Author: | Warhorse [ Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:10 am ] |
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cheers bro great advice. id rathe go with the funny one and laugh at it as it suits my personalty im almost o.t.t funny and hyper but it works wonders for me. a good energy is definitly a must in my opinion |
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