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Author:  momentrising [ Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:17 pm ]
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I like this guy. I don't know whether he knows about the apocalypse opener or his dad taught him from an early childhood. Who am I talking about? His name's Rob. He's gonna be the second person in the show to compete for the keys to the VIP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpSgKQh- ... F&index=58

Excellent demonstration of dominance, body language and voice tone. He proves that what you say doesn't matter as much as the rest of the 96% that overpowers your verbal communication.
Author:  -Achilles [ Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:02 pm ]
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hahahah

what the.. the guy is a fucking genius!
good post man

PS. thank cuz now i've gotten one more guide for my game (Key to the VIP)

:D
Author:  Z.dub [ Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:39 pm ]
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It looked fake to me, at least the guy who won. He called her the ugliest girl in the club, and she barely reacted... doesn't seem normal. That's not a neg, just an insult. Seems like he already knew her and planted her there just so he could win the show.
Author:  momentrising [ Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:13 pm ]
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It looked fake to me, at least the guy who won. He called her the ugliest girl in the club, and she barely reacted... doesn't seem normal. That's not a neg, just an insult. Seems like he already knew her and planted her there just so he could win the show.
You're not opening your eyes enough. Even a chinese pua would be able to see it better than you if you really are into the game, or atleast someone who knows about what's going on.

Here are some not so obvious things to know about first hand.

-She is not alone, her friends are right besides her
-The camera is at an angle that doesn't show them
-She mentions her friend she's leaving at the last second of the clip
-Her friends didn't intervene because she was into it, they were busy themselves and Rob had enough charisma to keep her friends on the defensive
-When someone's worth it, friends sometimes would just watch nearby as an audience
-You probably just never saw it irl and I've seen it a few times in clubs, right before my eyes.
-There are other methods outside the known methods so far. These are one of them, which you need lotsa charisma and good body language to make it happen.
-If it's fake like you say it is, then they must be really good actors. Maybe they even went to theater class together.
-The insult can be forgiven if you have a reason for it and aren't apologetic.
-She laughed and bowed her head down just a little when he insulted her. The camera was at an angle that didn't show it.
-The insult was part of his "character" as a badboy.
-It's not what he says, but how he says it that counts.
-He kept her in his frame of reality all the time. He never let her have any control
-His arms were wide open, meaning she's in his hands, he commanded attention and he was the show
-He lead the conversation all the way
-He handled the obstacle without being affected by her, again that's a great demonstration of power and poise.
-He used the obstacle to his advantage.
-I think he really did went out with the obstacle because he said her name "Alexia"
-His voice tonality was so powering and influential
-There was a thing he said that made a bit of NLP in it. "Now let me get this happen [...] somebody to atleast make something happen and make something happen big" He was talking about himself, and he made a persona of great character to make something happen, and he emphasized it with something big.
-The way he talked was C&F
-DHV with none verbal communication. All this happened mostly on sexual communication through body language and tonality.
Author:  Solomon II [ Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:06 am ]
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This video has been posted before in, get this, the video section. It's not the apocalypse opener. It is very direct though and what you see here does indeed work. Instead of trying to build comfort and attraction you pretty much just assume it's there already... personally I wouldn't extract a girl that fast, rather I suggest it and stay with her for a while and do things as normal from there. The fact that she stays to talk and continues to send IOIs after making your intentions clear pretty much makes it deal sealed.
Author:  V1V [ Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:38 pm ]
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It looked fake to me, at least the guy who won. He called her the ugliest girl in the club, and she barely reacted... doesn't seem normal. That's not a neg, just an insult. Seems like he already knew her and planted her there just so he could win the show.
yo without a doubt.
V1V :twisted:
Author:  V1V [ Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:41 pm ]
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AND lets face it hes a good looking guy. you reckon you could be that direct if you wer fugly?? if your fugly and not peacocked and open that direct wil you not just get blown straight off?
V1V :twisted:
Author:  Musterion [ Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:42 pm ]
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-I think he really did went out with the obstacle because he said her name "Alexia"
I disagree, I think he recognised the situation, that it was a stooge then worked it to his advantage. If a random girl comes up to you who you have genuinely never met before when you're on a TV show like this, you MUST know something is up. Who says he "knew" her name, I think he just made one up to see if she'd try calling him out on it.
Author:  momentrising [ Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:18 pm ]
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-I think he really did went out with the obstacle because he said her name "Alexia"
I disagree, I think he recognised the situation, that it was a stooge then worked it to his advantage. If a random girl comes up to you who you have genuinely never met before when you're on a TV show like this, you MUST know something is up. Who says he "knew" her name, I think he just made one up to see if she'd try calling him out on it.
Yeah, that's one possibility. Especially by the fact he went after the first guy. Supposedly they might have talked to each other for awhile and he told him about a random girl calling the first guy out. And then Rob knew maybe it might happen to him, because obviously he knows of the show, he might have seen it happen in earlier episodes.

So yeah, it's possible.
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