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Author:  frekinrican [ Fri May 16, 2008 1:39 am ]
Post subject:  Mall openers.. havent been on in awhile
Hey guys. Wow havent been on in a long while. So Im going to the mall tommorow and was wondering if the more exp PUA's can give me advice. I went to the mall today and saw gorgeous girls all over. Cant use the "does this look good on me" anything else?
Author:  The_Shadow [ Fri May 16, 2008 1:53 am ]
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The "Does this look good on me" and all those other ones that involve trying on clothes, just don't work for me either.

Here's one that I think would work.

You walk up to a group of girls in the mall, but pretend not to see them, and pretend you're on the phone.

"Dude, you are such an idiot. You don't know anything...[Get close to girls, still don't see them, but make sure they hear you]...yeah...oh wait dude. I'll just ask some people here."

Then approach them with phone at shoulder
"Excuse me, I'm sorry, but my friend and I are having an argument and we need a girl's opinion."

HBs: "Uh sure"

"Ok, a friend of mine has this girlfriend, right. And he went on a little vacation, and he's coming back tomorrow. But last night my friend saw his girlfriend hooking up with another girl. Is that considered cheating?"

Now you can see if they're into it or not. If they're giving you one word answers, just say thanks and leave. They are are going for it, drag it out.

"Yeah Ok, but why?" or "I don't get it...wouldn't that just be hot?"
Maybe throw a neg in there about their bad romantic advice, etc.

Then when that's dieing out, just say
"Oh, I'm _______" Shake their hands, and be all gentlemanly like. This is the Kino time. Maybe put your outer hand on the outer arm of the nearest girl and just tell her,
"These girls are real friendly" But only if you think she'll respond well, and laugh, making the other girls feel a little left out.
Then you can bring them back with the whole
"So where you guys from" convo.

Then once that is fading out, just say something like
"Oh crap, I forgot I was on the phone...Yo Jimmy, you still there? Jimmy? He hung up." That should get a laugh.

then
"Yeah, well I got to go." Then if it went well-
"You guys are fun to talk to, here," give them your cellphone, "give me your gals's numbers.

Then say goodbye.

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Note: I've never picked up a girl, but based on what I've read, this sounds like it's very doable.
Author:  frekinrican [ Fri May 16, 2008 2:07 am ]
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damn shadow. Thats great man. Thats pretty good. I cant wait. Anything else would help guys. Anything else shadow? PM me if any other advice ;)
Author:  The_Shadow [ Fri May 16, 2008 2:19 am ]
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Haha

Listen dude, I've just got a good imagination. I THINK this could work, because it's really pretty straightforward in terms of interacting with girls.

But understand, I don't have any experience in picking up girls..not yet anyway.

Anyway, I hope that helps, and I'll post more if I think of any. Day Gaming is the only way for me to get girls right now, cause I'm too young for clubs and bars, and picking up girls in school is not good.

EDIT: OH, and tell me how this goes if you use it! I'd love to know!
Author:  TJ6125 [ Fri May 16, 2008 2:55 am ]
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No offense shadow I just feel that...that sucks, you took the standard canned opener of "Girl hooking up with girl is that cheating?" and drag it into a scenario where it both may be unapplicable and i just reading it felt it was really bad. Guys girls slowly hear about canned openers until they become pick up lines so be more inventive, and if someone can't tell a fake cell phone conversation they are dumbasses, could work with a wingman but is already just...bad. My main point being the whole phone thing is unnecessary, if you think it won't work because you're at a mall, it just won't work. Dude, seriously...
Author:  The_Shadow [ Fri May 16, 2008 3:22 am ]
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Fine, I understand.

What would you think is better?
Author:  amante [ Fri May 16, 2008 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mall openers.. havent been on in awhile
Quote:
Hey guys. Wow havent been on in a long while. So Im going to the mall tommorow and was wondering if the more exp PUA's can give me advice. I went to the mall today and saw gorgeous girls all over. Cant use the "does this look good on me" anything else?
Hey Frekinrican. No pick up lines will help if you're nervous and stilted. The first thing that gets a woman's attention before you even start talking is you kingly presence and body language. That alone can cause women to approach YOU instead.

but why don't you try the cologne technique. Go to a cologne store in the mall, spray two designer colognes, one on each wrist. Go around asking women which one they like best. Tell them you want their opinion. this one really works esp,if they're great colognes. But remember without confidence and great body language....you're toast.

one more thing why don't you try doing a recon of the mall,and just visualise the openings before you actually do them?
Author:  amante [ Fri May 16, 2008 10:22 am ]
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Quote:
The "Does this look good on me" and all those other ones that involve trying on clothes, just don't work for me either.

Here's one that I think would work.

You walk up to a group of girls in the mall, but pretend not to see them, and pretend you're on the phone.

"Dude, you are such an idiot. You don't know anything...[Get close to girls, still don't see them, but make sure they hear you]...yeah...oh wait dude. I'll just ask some people here."

Then approach them with phone at shoulder
"Excuse me, I'm sorry, but my friend and I are having an argument and we need a girl's opinion."

HBs: "Uh sure"

"Ok, a friend of mine has this girlfriend, right. And he went on a little vacation, and he's coming back tomorrow. But last night my friend saw his girlfriend hooking up with another girl. Is that considered cheating?"

Now you can see if they're into it or not. If they're giving you one word answers, just say thanks and leave. They are are going for it, drag it out.

"Yeah Ok, but why?" or "I don't get it...wouldn't that just be hot?"
Maybe throw a neg in there about their bad romantic advice, etc.

Then when that's dieing out, just say
"Oh, I'm _______" Shake their hands, and be all gentlemanly like. This is the Kino time. Maybe put your outer hand on the outer arm of the nearest girl and just tell her,
"These girls are real friendly" But only if you think she'll respond well, and laugh, making the other girls feel a little left out.
Then you can bring them back with the whole
"So where you guys from" convo.

Then once that is fading out, just say something like
"Oh crap, I forgot I was on the phone...Yo Jimmy, you still there? Jimmy? He hung up." That should get a laugh.

then
"Yeah, well I got to go." Then if it went well-
"You guys are fun to talk to, here," give them your cellphone, "give me your gals's numbers.

Then say goodbye.

---

Note: I've never picked up a girl, but based on what I've read, this sounds like it's very doable.

BE CAREFUL WITH THIS ONE, WOMEN CAN ALWAYS SENSE WHEN A DUDE IS PRETENDING. THEY WILL PROBABLY TELL THAT YOU'RE NOT REALLY ON THE PHONE. why don't you just skip the fake phone call and ask them directly "Hey girls...my friend and I were arguing and we need a female perspective" simple as that.
Author:  polish [ Sat May 17, 2008 9:42 am ]
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the thing with this is not to have differnt energy levels, i got into a set but had too much energy. as i carried on during the day, i got into the right energy levels and so i number closed 3 ladies. the material here is awesome. thanks guys :D
Author:  spooon [ Sat May 17, 2008 12:43 pm ]
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some great lines here !
Author:  JerseyPrince [ Sat May 17, 2008 4:14 pm ]
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Just a thought on how to adapt the Mall phone routine so it works..... Call a wing, tell him you're trying to pick up a couple girls and let him know what the opener you're using is. When the girl starts answering the question hand her the phone and say "here you tell him he wont listen to me". If it's a two set you successfully rooted your opener and in a way isolated the girls. If your wing is good he'll keep the other chic busy while you pick up her friend. At least that's what I would do if I use that opener...
Author:  RedStripe [ Sat May 17, 2008 11:47 pm ]
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One of my favorite mall openers is asking for a gift recommendation for a girl. Something like, "I have to ask you a quick question. I need to buy a gift for my friends upcoming birthday, but I'm just a guy and I'm not sure what a good gift is for a non-romantic girlfriend. What do you think I should get her"

I find this to be very effective because you can easily expand the conversation by exchanging gift stories. Childhood gift stories can be very good DHVs. You can easily neg her and the suggestion if you feel it is needed. You can also illicit positive memories from her by asking her what her favorite gift of all time is. What I really like about it, is that you can easily take whatever she says and take the conversation in any direction you think it needs to go.

Best of luck to you,
Author:  The_Shadow [ Sun May 18, 2008 4:05 am ]
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Quote:
Just a thought on how to adapt the Mall phone routine so it works..... Call a wing, tell him you're trying to pick up a couple girls and let him know what the opener you're using is. When the girl starts answering the question hand her the phone and say "here you tell him he wont listen to me". If it's a two set you successfully rooted your opener and in a way isolated the girls. If your wing is good he'll keep the other chic busy while you pick up her friend. At least that's what I would do if I use that opener...
Great thing about this idea, is that the wing doesn't even have to put any effort into it. I mean, they can just be home playing video games or whatever and just help you out.
Author:  GeNeRaL3 [ Sun May 18, 2008 7:36 am ]
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If you have AA, just go into your first few sets and ask them for a piece of gum then eject...Otherwise go into your sets, throw in the FTC, tell them youre new in town and ask them what store(s) they would recommend around the mall for shoes/clothes/food etc.(dependin on how big the mall is)...Transition by sayin You remind me of my ex...Stack onto a Preselection story...
Author:  rubberbandman [ Sun May 18, 2008 11:37 pm ]
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here is a variation to what you can say using shadows method:

pretend you are on the phone and hang up, make sure that the target and especially the set notice.

after you hang up approach the set and say " Excuse me ladies, i just got off the phone with my brother and he wants me to pick up a dress for his fiance's bday.. The problem is that he cant exactly remember her size is...

I need a female oppinion on this matter, would it be worse to buy a size that is too big or a size that is too small?, because the last thing i want to do is offend her"

This is an excellent opener because usually girls have different opinions on this matter. A trick her is to agree with you're targets answer, over the members in the set (even if you dont agree with it)

good luck, hope this post helps
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