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Author:  Fin [ Sun May 04, 2008 7:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Increase you succesful opening %tage dramatically
Simple NLP trick I spotted.

"Hey guys can I ask for your opinion?" -Success

"Hey guys can I ask you a question?" -Fail

Girls love to give their opinion, they hate being questioned.

Lets re-cap if you missed it, from a HB's point of view.

"blah blah blah blah blah blah QUESTION?" -Interview, boring, man with clipboard usualy a nussaince.


"blah blah blah blah blah blah OPINION?" - chance to talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk. (anyone who has spent time with a girl will know this is true)

Try it as soon as possible and see the results.
Author:  Dr^ZigMan [ Mon May 05, 2008 8:43 pm ]
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Why are you asking if you can ask for their opinion? I've thrown hundreds of opinion openers and I've found the best way to open them is:

"Hey guys give me your opinion on something..."

This way I am asking for an opinion (your point is 100% valid, opinion not a question!) and yet not being needy about it. It's also rather alpha, I'm dictating the course of the interaction.

Women are social people, hell people are social people. As a PUA you stand out, you elicit, you add value! Don't be afraid to go out there are start just talking to people.

Why not field test this for yourself? 10 one way, 10 the other? See what happens :)
Author:  Fin [ Mon May 05, 2008 9:10 pm ]
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HAHA! Thought exactly that last night.

It's just I say it like it ain't a request.

Sorta like... "hey guys could I ask you're opinion on something, *look off to the side while saying next bit with no pause* Do you prefer the tie up or down?
Author:  Ivanilgrande [ Tue May 06, 2008 5:44 pm ]
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always add also "for a second" and the simple magic word "because"...

the reason I'm asking is BECAUSE... bla bla... makes miracles and give you congruence and integrity...
Author:  Ivanilgrande [ Tue May 06, 2008 5:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Increase you succesful opening %tage dramatically
Quote:
"Hey guys can I ask for your opinion?" -Success

"Hey guys can I ask you a question?" -Fail
In any case this is a very good underline.
I think the complete one should be:
"Hey GUYS can I ask your 2' opinion on... because..."
Author:  Bennjimin [ Tue May 06, 2008 7:35 pm ]
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I'm learning never to make it sound like your asking for anything. I've started telling girls to come with me, or to move, or whatever. And the way they've started responding is mind blowing! lol Its amazing how something so simple can help so much.

~Bennjimin
Author:  Midnight_ [ Tue May 06, 2008 8:23 pm ]
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Quote:
I'm learning never to make it sound like your asking for anything. I've started telling girls to come with me, or to move, or whatever. And the way they've started responding is mind blowing! lol Its amazing how something so simple can help so much.

~Bennjimin
So do you never worry about sounding "bossy," or do you ever get a girl accusing you of being bossy? Or perhaps you have a comeback ready if she does?
Author:  Guitar_Whizz [ Tue May 06, 2008 11:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Increase you succesful opening %tage dramatically
Quote:
Simple NLP trick I spotted.

"Hey guys can I ask for your opinion?" -Success

"Hey guys can I ask you a question?" -Fail
No, I disagree. There were a lot of guys getting paranoid that women would realise he was a pua if he asked "Can I get your opinion on something?"....so I changed it to "Hiya, can I ask you a quick question?" then moved into the routine...but, hey just do whatever works best for you.

However, I now do direct/natural game, so I don't need routines any more. I rely on my core confidence and vibe to attract girls.....I just talk about whatever is on my mind at the time.
Author:  GeNeRaL3 [ Sun May 18, 2008 7:53 am ]
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Wow Guitar_Whizz Props, I can't wait till Im doing that...

In order to stray away from all the media attention the "Opinion Openers" are receiving, I use "Hey I gotta ask you guys something" Ive opened 10 sets so far, and all of them opened receptively when I used this. So Im gonna keep it. You can even throw a "really quick" at the end of the sentence as your FTC...
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