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Author:  aemaeTh [ Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Is approaching as a guy mandatory?
I'm exactly 30yo but I look younger, like 25yo I am told. I don't want to be cheesy, but here is a pic so you can get better context:
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My question is directed towards alphas or guys that meet women successfully and have sex (with multiple women preferably). Also, I have to say, all the women I'm attracted to are young women, like <25yo so thats what I seek out on tinder, gym, any public setting or online dating site.

My question is, does the man, absolutely, have to approach the female in every single situation? In public (gym or bar), online (on tinder or some dating site), so does the male always always have to seek out the female with "icebreaker" aka pickup line etc..?

Reason I ask is I have always tried to stay in shape and take care of myself, and I went for a Engineering degree to educate myself BUT

...I noticed even with having these qualities to present myself in a good-light, it's very difficult for me to meet women. I always followed that alpha male mentality of not "chasing women" or putting "pussy on a pedestal"

however, again, it seems this simply doesn't work. Yeah, I may get 1 or 2 girls sparsely eye-f00king me, but like on a whole women never approach and it's even hard to interpret at times if they are even giving signals to approach them, especially irritating with those feminists movement of "men are creeps and rapists" shit.

Any alphas, men who pick up women easily, feel free to beat me down and criticize me all you want. I need to figure this shit out before I get too much older.
Author:  JackZero [ Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is approaching as a guy mandatory?
There is absolutely nothing alpha about standing around hoping that a woman will approach you. Get that silliness out of your head. Women get approached all of the time, so they have no reason to approach a guy unless there is something extraordinary about him (rich, famous, etc..). Women, like men, fear rejection so since it is the norm for men to approach women there is no reason for them to risk that rejection.

When you notice girls checking you out, that is a signal to approach. Don't wait for them to approach you because you'll be disappointed a majority of the time.
Author:  Arch Stanton [ Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is approaching as a guy mandatory?
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I'm exactly 30yo but I look younger, like 25yo I am told. I don't want to be cheesy, but here is a pic so you can get better context:

Nice job hitting the gym! Lose the moustache and replace with a light beard or clean-shaven. Get some sun.

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My question is directed towards alphas or guys that meet women successfully and have sex (with multiple women preferably). Also, I have to say, all the women I'm attracted to are young women, like <25yo so thats what I seek out on tinder, gym, any public setting or online dating site.

My question is, does the man, absolutely, have to approach the female in every single situation? In public (gym or bar), online (on tinder or some dating site), so does the male always always have to seek out the female with "icebreaker" aka pickup line etc..?

Yes, most of the time you will have to approach. approaching women for the first time is not "chasing". Chasing would be going on a date with a woman, and then constantly blowing up her phone when she doesn't text you back.
Author:  oceanx [ Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is approaching as a guy mandatory?
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Any alphas, men who pick up women easily, feel free to beat me down and criticize me all you want. I need to figure this shit out before I get too much older.
Ok.
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My question is, does the man, absolutely, have to approach the female in every single situation? In public (gym or bar), online (on tinder or some dating site), so does the male always always have to seek out the female with "icebreaker" aka pickup line etc..?
Yes. Sack up and make your play playa. It's the only way. Dive into the game.

Stop looking for approach signals. You don't fucking need approach signals.

Here's why:

When you are a man who is used to meeting and sexing women, women want what you've got. They light up when you say so much as "hey" to them. So that when you go to the woman she is receptive to your presentation.
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women never approach
Of course they don't. That's not their job. It is utterly unnatural. IT'S NOT THEIR JOB TO APPROACH. IT'S YOUR JOB TO APPROACH. Expecting a woman to approach is like expecting a cat to get along with a dog. Not gonna happen.

You are experiencing nothing other than run of the mill ego-based approach anxiety and until you step up and start talking to women it will only continue.
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those feminists movement
Remove this notion from your mind. Women want men, men want women. It's the only way the species propagates.
Author:  iggz80 [ Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:21 am ]
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I need to figure this shit out before I get too much older.
There's a lot of time in front of you before you get too old, so don't worry about that. :wink:
Author:  kidfromcro [ Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is approaching as a guy mandatory?
if you dont approach,consider yourself rejected,also you look like a dick staring at them while they eye fucking you as you say.
sometimes can happen that a woman approaches you,but dont count on that much
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is approaching as a guy mandatory?
I get approached man, but I also go after what it is that I want. Part of being an Alpha is not waiting on the world to come to you. If I want a lot of money, I don't sit on my hands and wait for the money to walk onto my door step. If I want a girl, I don't sit around waiting for her to approach me. Who's approaching who is such a small thing. Let her chase you during the interaction, but be the leader and break the ice.

Most women do not have confidence or the ability to deal with rejection enough to make a strong first move.
Author:  oceanx [ Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:22 pm ]
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I get approached man, but I also go after what it is that I want. Part of being an Alpha is not waiting on the world to come to you.
This.

It's literally crazy the amount of missed opps you'll have if you only interact with the ones who open you.
Author:  Arch Stanton [ Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:01 am ]
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those feminists movement
Remove this notion from your mind. Women want men, men want women. It's the only way the species propagates.

Yes. Don't make excuses OP, because biology > human social constructs.

It does not matter what religion, beliefs, feminist, born again, welder, waitress, doctor, asian, american, German. a dominant male attracts all women.
Author:  oceanx [ Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:33 am ]
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I always followed that alpha male mentality of not "chasing women"
Sitting back and not taking action is more aligned with passive feminine energy that waits for the active masculine energy to engage.
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putting "pussy on a pedestal"
This just means don't supplicate to them, don't be their bff, that kind of thing. It doesn't mean don't go up to them and have a convo.

By not opening women, you are demonstrating to them that you are either taken, not interested or afraid of them.
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