PUA Forum :: What is a conversation at a bar supposed to be like?

I did.

Look man, I talk to women the same way I talk to my close guy friends. I joke around, I give them shit and I tease them.
The only difference is that with women there's also sexual interest, which adds nuance.

You wouldn't ever open a conversation with your best friend by asking how his night is going, would you?

Then I noticed she had a weird manicure. Looked nice but it was particularly artsy and different. So naturally I asked why she's such a hipster and for her to show me what I presumed would be an inevitable iPhone gold. She laughed and replied that she likes to paint, and shown me a picture of a painting she had done. I found it interesting that she had an artistic side yet was studying in exact sciences.

This seems so out of my reach. I don't know what my problem is, but I'm starting to think that it's something that PUA can't help me with, which is extremely unsettling.

I actually type on my phone while I'm out mostly.

This seems so out of my reach. I don't know what my problem is, but I'm starting to think that it's something that PUA can't help me with, which is extremely unsettling.

I will keep at it, though.

I did.

You wouldn't ever open a conversation with your best friend by asking how his night is going, would you?

What you say doesn't really matter in the slightest. What does matter is the vibe you create. The connection you get going.

Last night I met some girl and when she asked for my name I said it was Muhammad, and that I was a rich prince for Saudi Arabia. That's absolutely ridiculous considering I'm blond and light skinned. It was obviously not true, but she played along.
I never did that before. No idea why I did it yesterday either. Guess I was just feeling playful.

Then I noticed she had a weird manicure. Looked nice but it was particularly artsy and different. So naturally I asked why she's such a hipster and for her to show me what I presumed would be an inevitable iPhone gold. She laughed and replied that she likes to paint, and shown me a picture of a painting she had done. I found it interesting that she had an artistic side yet was studying in exact sciences. She then confessed she occasionally enjoys video games too, and just recently cheaped out on buying a copy of Diablo 3 from some obscure russian website. Ofcourse it was a fake and it ended up not being a valid license.
So I commended her on her pristine decision making skills.

She said that kind of stuff is highly characteristic of her and wonders what her next mistake will be. I replied that it will probably be a blond prince from Saudi Arabia.

Turns out I was right.

Author:	HockeyFan987987 [ Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:	What is a conversation at a bar supposed to be like?
Supposed to be fun, playful, even sexual. Can you give specific examples of things to say? Mine sometimes come across like a narcissist seeking approval.

Author:	R.C [ Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:51 pm ]
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What you say doesn't really matter in the slightest. What does matter is the vibe you create. The connection you get going. Last night I met some girl and when she asked for my name I said it was Muhammad, and that I was a rich prince for Saudi Arabia. That's absolutely ridiculous considering I'm blond and light skinned. It was obviously not true, but she played along. I never did that before. No idea why I did it yesterday either. Guess I was just feeling playful. Then I noticed she had a weird manicure. Looked nice but it was particularly artsy and different. So naturally I asked why she's such a hipster and for her to show me what I presumed would be an inevitable iPhone gold. She laughed and replied that she likes to paint, and shown me a picture of a painting she had done. I found it interesting that she had an artistic side yet was studying in exact sciences. She then confessed she occasionally enjoys video games too, and just recently cheaped out on buying a copy of Diablo 3 from some obscure russian website. Ofcourse it was a fake and it ended up not being a valid license. So I commended her on her pristine decision making skills. She said that kind of stuff is highly characteristic of her and wonders what her next mistake will be. I replied that it will probably be a blond prince from Saudi Arabia. Turns out I was right.

Author:	HockeyFan987987 [ Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:06 pm ]
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So you had sex with her? My conversations are so infinitely boring they might as well not even exist. I seriously think I have autism or something. It's that bad. I usually start and end with "how's your night going?" Then silence. The only times I've managed to get conversations going is when drunk but I don't want to rely on alcohol or become an alcoholic. I have addiction issues, plus drinking leads to smoking, which is awful. Any suggestions at all? I don't know why my conversation skills are so awful, you would think I've never had a conversation in my life. And there is little to no eye contact, either.

Author:	R.C [ Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:12 pm ]
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I did. Look man, I talk to women the same way I talk to my close guy friends. I joke around, I give them shit and I tease them. The only difference is that with women there's also sexual interest, which adds nuance. You wouldn't ever open a conversation with your best friend by asking how his night is going, would you?

Author:	WT Foxtrot [ Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:49 am ]
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R.C. reminded me of one Halloween when I opened a girl dressed as a giant penis. I know, there were actually three giant penises though. She hand made her costume, (Obviously). She used a lamp shade on top of her head and wore a skin colored body suit. Anyway we chatted for about 15 minutes about how she had the best lamp costume ever! I played like I had no idea what a penis was and she was either too embarrassed or was playing along too. Something would of been strange had I decided to Kiss a giant penis. So I decided against it.

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Author:	HockeyFan987987 [ Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:02 am ]
Post subject:	Re: What is a conversation at a bar supposed to be like?
Quote: I did. Look man, I talk to women the same way I talk to my close guy friends. I joke around, I give them shit and I tease them. The only difference is that with women there's also sexual interest, which adds nuance. You wouldn't ever open a conversation with your best friend by asking how his night is going, would you? I have few, if any, friends. Do you actually care and listen to what they say or do you just pretend to to get in their pants? If my conversations ever get serious, which they rarely, if ever, do, it becomes argumentative. I kind of like this because most guys don't argue with girls.

Author:	R.C [ Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:50 am ]
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Quote: Then I noticed she had a weird manicure. Looked nice but it was particularly artsy and different. So naturally I asked why she's such a hipster and for her to show me what I presumed would be an inevitable iPhone gold. She laughed and replied that she likes to paint, and shown me a picture of a painting she had done. I found it interesting that she had an artistic side yet was studying in exact sciences. Ofcourse I care and listen. Conversations can have more of a serious undertone, or can be kept light. Doesn't matter as long as you're enjoying yourselves.

Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:34 pm ]
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Quote: This seems so out of my reach. I don't know what my problem is, but I'm starting to think that it's something that PUA can't help me with, which is extremely unsettling. Wah! Stop avoiding girls by setting yourself up to fail before you even start. Your goal is not to look for sex or a woman but merely to look for and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. Don't wait until everything is just right. It will never be perfect. There will always be challenges, obstacles and less than perfect conditions. So what. Get started now. With each step you take, you will grow stronger and stronger, more and more skilled, more and more self-confident and more and more successful. You've accepted your limits, to succeed you must go beyond them. You need to get out of your comfort zone. As often as possible. You should run away from it at full speed, and fight it off when it catches up to you. Seriously. It will feel incredibly frightening, especially at first, but you HAVE TO DO IT. It's like diving off a small cliff, or going down the huge water slide that's just a straight shot down. Just walk right up to that cute stranger and say hello. It's counter-intuitive. Every instinct you have is screaming at you for even considering taking action. But you have to just say screw it and take the plunge. Don't let yourself back down. Once you've done it, you'll be reminded of what exactly it really means to feel alive, and it'll be quite like a drug, almost exactly like one in terms of the chemicals it will produce in your brain to make you feel all sorts of wonderful feelings. You'll want to do it more often, although it'll never quite get any less scary to give yourself that final push. But you do somehow get more accustomed and comfortable doing it at the same time. Start right now, TODAY, or stop dicking around on your keyboard wasting our time. Fuck sake.

Author:	HockeyFan987987 [ Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:13 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What is a conversation at a bar supposed to be like?
I actually type on my phone while I'm out mostly.

Author:	Mr. Assertive [ Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:39 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: What is a conversation at a bar supposed to be like?
Quote: This seems so out of my reach. I don't know what my problem is, but I'm starting to think that it's something that PUA can't help me with, which is extremely unsettling. I will keep at it, though. Not sure why, but I always recommend people to see a psychologist whenever they mention narcissism. OP. Do that.

Author:	jesterofmalice [ Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:33 pm ]
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Quote: I did. You wouldn't ever open a conversation with your best friend by asking how his night is going, would you? Is that really a bad opener for a bar? Both a mod on a different pickupforum AND the guy with the biggest notch count on rooshvforums both say they typically open with that sort of line.

Author:	Arch Stanton [ Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:34 am ]
Post subject:	Re: What is a conversation at a bar supposed to be like?
Quote: What you say doesn't really matter in the slightest. What does matter is the vibe you create. The connection you get going. Last night I met some girl and when she asked for my name I said it was Muhammad, and that I was a rich prince for Saudi Arabia. That's absolutely ridiculous considering I'm blond and light skinned. It was obviously not true, but she played along. I never did that before. No idea why I did it yesterday either. Guess I was just feeling playful. Then I noticed she had a weird manicure. Looked nice but it was particularly artsy and different. So naturally I asked why she's such a hipster and for her to show me what I presumed would be an inevitable iPhone gold. She laughed and replied that she likes to paint, and shown me a picture of a painting she had done. I found it interesting that she had an artistic side yet was studying in exact sciences. She then confessed she occasionally enjoys video games too, and just recently cheaped out on buying a copy of Diablo 3 from some obscure russian website. Ofcourse it was a fake and it ended up not being a valid license. So I commended her on her pristine decision making skills. She said that kind of stuff is highly characteristic of her and wonders what her next mistake will be. I replied that it will probably be a blond prince from Saudi Arabia. Turns out I was right. Boom. Note the playfulness, teasing and cockiness. no bragging, no complaining, no lame disguising his intentions. R.C. basically told her she was going to fuck him in a charming way...and then did. This is what honesty does for you. Women love it. Why? Attractive women are hounded by creepy nice guys who don't speak their mind and who are too serious. Honesty is a shocking, but exciting contrast to these clueless mopes.

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