PUA Forum :: So many conflicting theories, what actually works?

I have read so many ways on how to approach a girl that it gets confusing on what actually works.
Some say to approach a girl directly and ask for her name and number, while others said you have to play it cool. The "play it cool" group would emphasize on being the "alpha male" that is not to act rattled by her beauty, act aloof, socialize around with different girls and never stopping on one, while dropping subtle hints on the girl that you are interested in her. Personally, I have tried both ways. Direct always works (Unless you straight up approach a stranger on a street which it will probably fail). Acting like an alpha male and flirting around works sometimes but I think you cannot go overboard with it. Two reasons. 1) She might really think you are not interested in her and just give up 2) She will know what you are up to, and also find you pretentious. Actually both styles can work. I have only just held conversation with only a single girl in a club and managed to get laid (There was chemistry between us). I did not have to have 10 girls surrounding me, I was confident and interesting, we were able to talk to each other. I got touchy with her at the right places, both of us consumed alcohol lowering our inhibitions and we liked each other and it was case closed.

On the topic of text messages there are also two conflicting theories. Most would say not to use simple texts like "Hows your work?" but instead messages like "What's my little naughty princess up to today? Let me guess..probably making overbaked cookies in the kitchen again (teasing her)". In my opinion, unless she is already your girlfriend or you both are really really close already, just sticking to "How's your day/how's your work?" is much better. Again, I have experimented with both styles and using elaborate text messages seemed to get a "forced reply" or sometimes they don't reply at all. While surprisingly, using simple texts do get favourable replies, but of course you got to mixed it up a bit. Sometimes, if she doesn't reply you just take it at face value, it is very common for a girl not to reply as there are probably several guys messaging her everyday.

At the end of the day, My belief is that it is not the style but the person that would dictate whether you are successful in bedding the girl or making her your girlfriend. My important rules are:

1) Be confident

Girls absolutely avoid guys acting like they have low self worth, or totally hide in the shadows. You do not have to go break-dancing in a club or pulling off Usher's dance moves but just show that you have high self worth.

2) Hold an interesting conversation

No one wants to talk to someone who just nods their head or never speaks up. If you mastered point number 1), point number 2) should come easily.

3) Touch her in the right places

This is the most important part, if you want to take it further to the next step. You go to touch her in the right places, make her feel comfortable in your arms and she will be yours in no time. Best places would be behind the neck, shoulder, side of the waist, thighs, arms and hands.

These are basically the three essential steps to get a girl in my honest opinion.

Author:	Icyboy771z [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:39 am ]
Post subject:	So many conflicting theories, what actually works?
I have read so many ways on how to approach a girl that it gets confusing on what actually works. Some say to approach a girl directly and ask for her name and number, while others said you have to play it cool. The "play it cool" group would emphasize on being the "alpha male" that is not to act rattled by her beauty, act aloof, socialize around with different girls and never stopping on one, while dropping subtle hints on the girl that you are interested in her. Personally, I have tried both ways. Direct always works (Unless you straight up approach a stranger on a street which it will probably fail). Acting like an alpha male and flirting around works sometimes but I think you cannot go overboard with it. Two reasons. 1) She might really think you are not interested in her and just give up 2) She will know what you are up to, and also find you pretentious. Actually both styles can work. I have only just held conversation with only a single girl in a club and managed to get laid (There was chemistry between us). I did not have to have 10 girls surrounding me, I was confident and interesting, we were able to talk to each other. I got touchy with her at the right places, both of us consumed alcohol lowering our inhibitions and we liked each other and it was case closed. On the topic of text messages there are also two conflicting theories. Most would say not to use simple texts like "Hows your work?" but instead messages like "What's my little naughty princess up to today? Let me guess..probably making overbaked cookies in the kitchen again (teasing her)". In my opinion, unless she is already your girlfriend or you both are really really close already, just sticking to "How's your day/how's your work?" is much better. Again, I have experimented with both styles and using elaborate text messages seemed to get a "forced reply" or sometimes they don't reply at all. While surprisingly, using simple texts do get favourable replies, but of course you got to mixed it up a bit. Sometimes, if she doesn't reply you just take it at face value, it is very common for a girl not to reply as there are probably several guys messaging her everyday. At the end of the day, My belief is that it is not the style but the person that would dictate whether you are successful in bedding the girl or making her your girlfriend. My important rules are: 1) Be confident Girls absolutely avoid guys acting like they have low self worth, or totally hide in the shadows. You do not have to go break-dancing in a club or pulling off Usher's dance moves but just show that you have high self worth. 2) Hold an interesting conversation No one wants to talk to someone who just nods their head or never speaks up. If you mastered point number 1), point number 2) should come easily. 3) Touch her in the right places This is the most important part, if you want to take it further to the next step. You go to touch her in the right places, make her feel comfortable in your arms and she will be yours in no time. Best places would be behind the neck, shoulder, side of the waist, thighs, arms and hands. These are basically the three essential steps to get a girl in my honest opinion.

Author:	Warped Mindless [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:54 am ]
Post subject:	Re: So many conflicting theories, what actually works?
1) Max out your looks and become as good looking as possible 2) Make sure you actually have some social skills and dont come off as weird 3) Meet lots of women and sexually escalate on them 4) Doesnt hurt if you can make them laugh too 5) The ones that allows you to get sexual and flirts back try to pull them back home If you do those 5 things you will get laid. Everything else just comes down to personal style.

Author:	R.C [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:17 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: So many conflicting theories, what actually works?
Pretty much what he said. You need to have your shit together in life if you wanna be naturally good with women.

Author:	ChocolatePUA [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:33 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: So many conflicting theories, what actually works?
Quote: I have read so many ways on how to approach a girl that it gets confusing on what actually works. Some say to approach a girl directly and ask for her name and number, while others said you have to play it cool. The "play it cool" group would emphasize on being the "alpha male" that is not to act rattled by her beauty, act aloof, socialize around with different girls and never stopping on one, while dropping subtle hints on the girl that you are interested in her. Personally, I have tried both ways. Direct always works (Unless you straight up approach a stranger on a street which it will probably fail). Acting like an alpha male and flirting around works sometimes but I think you cannot go overboard with it. Two reasons. 1) She might really think you are not interested in her and just give up 2) She will know what you are up to, and also find you pretentious. Actually both styles can work. I have only just held conversation with only a single girl in a club and managed to get laid (There was chemistry between us). I did not have to have 10 girls surrounding me, I was confident and interesting, we were able to talk to each other. I got touchy with her at the right places, both of us consumed alcohol lowering our inhibitions and we liked each other and it was case closed. On the topic of text messages there are also two conflicting theories. Most would say not to use simple texts like "Hows your work?" but instead messages like "What's my little naughty princess up to today? Let me guess..probably making overbaked cookies in the kitchen again (teasing her)". In my opinion, unless she is already your girlfriend or you both are really really close already, just sticking to "How's your day/how's your work?" is much better. Again, I have experimented with both styles and using elaborate text messages seemed to get a "forced reply" or sometimes they don't reply at all. While surprisingly, using simple texts do get favourable replies, but of course you got to mixed it up a bit. Sometimes, if she doesn't reply you just take it at face value, it is very common for a girl not to reply as there are probably several guys messaging her everyday. At the end of the day, My belief is that it is not the style but the person that would dictate whether you are successful in bedding the girl or making her your girlfriend. My important rules are: 1) Be confident Girls absolutely avoid guys acting like they have low self worth, or totally hide in the shadows. You do not have to go break-dancing in a club or pulling off Usher's dance moves but just show that you have high self worth. 2) Hold an interesting conversation No one wants to talk to someone who just nods their head or never speaks up. If you mastered point number 1), point number 2) should come easily. 3) Touch her in the right places This is the most important part, if you want to take it further to the next step. You go to touch her in the right places, make her feel comfortable in your arms and she will be yours in no time. Best places would be behind the neck, shoulder, side of the waist, thighs, arms and hands. These are basically the three essential steps to get a girl in my honest opinion. Quote: Some say to approach a girl directly and ask for her name and number, while others said you have to play it cool. You should ALWAYS give some indication of interest. What the "direct" camp fails to realise is that VERBALIZING interest makes little difference in success or failure - what's important is body language and escalation. There's nothing wrong with going "direct" - and if you prefer it and it works for you, then by all means go for it. But a verbalization of interest, to me personally, is neither here nor there in terms of increasing attraction, IF you can suitably demonstrate that interest otherwise. Quote: Most would say not to use simple texts like "Hows your work?" but instead messages like "What's my little naughty princess up to today? Let me guess..probably making overbaked cookies in the kitchen again (teasing her)". I don't consider myself a "textpert" by any means, but I much prefer to focus on in-person communication. Doesn't mean you can't have a regular conversation through text/online, but you will always form a stronger bond through in-person communication. If you HAVEN"T made a significant enough connection (many guys don't) and you send a generic text, then it stands a much higher likelihood of being ignored, which is why it's usually better to send a more interesting and engaging message.

Author:	masterm1ne [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:01 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: So many conflicting theories, what actually works?
Quote: Actually [all] styles can work. Astonishing...

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Author:	breedlove465 [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:36 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: So many conflicting theories, what actually works?
Quote: I have read so many ways on how to approach a girl that it gets confusing on what actually works. As with anything where there are people trying to attract clients and earn money, there is alot of sensationalism. If there was only one way to get girls, then their wouldn't be a debate. Everyone would be doing that and only that almost exclusively. Follow the major points and practice practice practice. When you hear questions like "The girl said X, so can someone give me the perfect line in response?" you are seeing someone who thinks of picking up girls as a literal code where you can hit a series of buttons and it always works. It's just not like that.

Author:	JackZero [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: So many conflicting theories, what actually works?
Quote: Some say to approach a girl directly and ask for her name and number Quote: Personally, I have tried both ways. Direct always works (Unless you straight up approach a stranger on a street which it will probably fail). Very bold claim. I wonder if OP actually talks to women because the entire post reads like he's trying to work it out in his head.

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