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Bottom line, go approach man! Don't go with feeling "comfortable". This isn't time to get comfy. This is time to push yourself OUT of your comfort zone. That's where we grow my man

Don't get caught up on "how to open" with her. Much more important is the way you act, and the things you follow up with.
I've had complete shit openers and had awesome success because I said some funny banter, had good body language, and was fun after

I've had openers that are fking hilarious to her and her friends, and the set fizzled out.

Much more grave is what happens after the opener.

Bottom line, go approach man! Don't go with feeling "comfortable". This isn't time to get comfy. This is time to push yourself OUT of your comfort zone. That's where we grow my man

Trust me on this:
Your future self will buy a time machine, come back, and give you a hoverboard as a token of gratitude for your efforts. Don't you want a hoverboard?

In all seriousness, this is an investment in your future. Push yourself, get approaches out there, and find out what works and doesn't on your own. Once you've opened and made mistakes, come back and ask what can be done tomorrow.

-Lifestyle

You can say almost what you want, but never say a question or a compliment to girl.

And yes, nothing be work if girl dont have a interest. This is the main thing here.

Opinion opener (I khow) to me is a PRIVATE question.

Melodical
The majority part of game is to create an interest in the girl you're talking too.
- Yes. I say the same. But its another thread, not this.

JackZero
Opinion opener bad work in progress, in my way.
More good a direct social opener, on my opinion, for example "I think, it's, good day for walking\drink coffee\riding." No question, no social pressure, girl a more feel free to talking and have conversation to say what she want, and its a natural. If you said this, and girl be silent, you can easy speaking farther without a confusion.

If some girl come to me and asking "my opinion" I have very hard desire sayed like "I think we are no knew each other".

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You can say almost what you want, but never say a question or a compliment to girl.

Everything you say here is correct except never say a question or a compliment to a girl.

You can say almost what you want, but never say a question or a compliment to girl.

Author:	NVB_2 [ Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:39 am ]
Post subject:	Direct Vs. Indirect
As an attractive guy, would you recommend I just open with a compliment? I feel like indirect is just a waste of time. Opinions?

Author:	JackZero [ Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:46 am ]
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The best option is what makes you more comfortable.

Author:	lifestylebib [ Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:26 am ]
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Don't get caught up on "how to open" with her. Much more important is the way you act, and the things you follow up with. I've had complete shit openers and had awesome success because I said some funny banter, had good body language, and was fun after. I've had openers that are fking hilarious to her and her friends, and the set fizzled out. Much more grave is what happens after the opener. Bottom line, go approach man! Don't go with feeling "comfortable". This isn't time to get comfy. This is time to push yourself OUT of your comfort zone. That's where we grow my man Trust me on this: Your future self will buy a time machine, come back, and give you a hoverboard as a token of gratitude for your efforts. Don't you want a hoverboard? In all seriousness, this is an investment in your future. Push yourself, get approaches out there, and find out what works and doesn't on your own. Once you've opened and made mistakes, come back and ask what can be done tomorrow. -Lifestyle

Author:	JackZero [ Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:40 am ]
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Quote: Bottom line, go approach man! Don't go with feeling "comfortable". This isn't time to get comfy. This is time to push yourself OUT of your comfort zone. That's where we grow my man I'm guessing you are saying this because my advice was to go with the option he was more comfortable with. The advice to step out of your comfort zone is good for deciding to approach women taking in account your end goal. How you approach women should be within your comfort zone. You may not have the personality to pull off an indirect opener, hold a conversation, and remain interesting...therefore a direct opener may be the best thing for you. You may not have the body language or the confidence to pull off a direct opener, so indirect is probably best for you. It's about staying congruent.

Author:	NVB_2 [ Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:59 am ]
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Quote: Don't get caught up on "how to open" with her. Much more important is the way you act, and the things you follow up with. I've had complete shit openers and had awesome success because I said some funny banter, had good body language, and was fun after I've had openers that are fking hilarious to her and her friends, and the set fizzled out. Much more grave is what happens after the opener. Bottom line, go approach man! Don't go with feeling "comfortable". This isn't time to get comfy. This is time to push yourself OUT of your comfort zone. That's where we grow my man Trust me on this: Your future self will buy a time machine, come back, and give you a hoverboard as a token of gratitude for your efforts. Don't you want a hoverboard? In all seriousness, this is an investment in your future. Push yourself, get approaches out there, and find out what works and doesn't on your own. Once you've opened and made mistakes, come back and ask what can be done tomorrow. -Lifestyle Great fuckin response hahahahhaha it's been noted

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Author:	S@disto [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:16 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct Vs. Indirect
You can say almost what you want, but never say a question or a compliment to girl.

Author:	JackZero [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:19 pm ]
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Quote: You can say almost what you want, but never say a question or a compliment to girl. Everything you say here is correct except never say a question or a compliment to a girl.

Author:	S@disto [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:36 pm ]
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Nice sayed! Ok. Im just a man. And this my opinion. And this opinion based in my logic and practice, how its looking: Questions share a private and social. If your sayed private: girl write you in fan category. Its bad. If social (and than you wanted to catch her already like girl): girl thinking what you are just a civilian man, and than when your sayed "what your name sweety?", she thinking "what a tricky bastard, I must dont have any business with this guy", and than you have her number what she give you with smile, and you call but listen only whistless. When you say like opener a compliment, you doing what a doing are almost all of guy, and you go to her fan collection too. Compliment its good sometimes, but totally no like opener.

Author:	JackZero [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:48 pm ]
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I get what you're saying, but again...it's wrong. A guy that opens with a compliment and hopes she responds to the compliment is going to fail if she doesn't already have interest. If he compliments and immediately transitions into a conversation, it expresses interest and increases the initial intensity of the conversation. Do you know what an "opinion opener" is?

Author:	S@disto [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:11 pm ]
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Opinion opener (I khow) to me is a PRIVATE question. And yes, nothing be work if girl dont have a interest. This is the main thing here. But im thinking in the way of thread, and sayed my opinion like I see, what categorically dont sayed to open girl. More, I think is the question of calibrate reaction, if girl even nothing say, its no mean she dont wanted talk.

Author:	Melodical [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:17 pm ]
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Quote: And yes, nothing be work if girl dont have a interest. This is the main thing here. The majority part of game is to create an interest in the girl you're talking too.

Author:	JackZero [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:35 pm ]
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Quote: Opinion opener (I khow) to me is a PRIVATE question. And you said PRIVATE questions are bad. I'm saying that opinion openers actually work.

Author:	S@disto [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:03 pm ]
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Melodical The majority part of game is to create an interest in the girl you're talking too. - Yes. I say the same. But its another thread, not this. JackZero Opinion opener bad work in progress, in my way. More good a direct social opener, on my opinion, for example "I think, it's, good day for walking\drink coffee\riding." No question, no social pressure, girl a more feel free to talking and have conversation to say what she want, and its a natural. If you said this, and girl be silent, you can easy speaking farther without a confusion. If some girl come to me and asking "my opinion" I have very hard desire sayed like "I think we are no knew each other".

Author:	JackZero [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:17 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct Vs. Indirect
Quote: Melodical The majority part of game is to create an interest in the girl you're talking too. - Yes. I say the same. But its another thread, not this. JackZero Opinion opener bad work in progress, in my way. More good a direct social opener, on my opinion, for example "I think, it's, good day for walking\drink coffee\riding." No question, no social pressure, girl a more feel free to talking and have conversation to say what she want, and its a natural. If you said this, and girl be silent, you can easy speaking farther without a confusion. If some girl come to me and asking "my opinion" I have very hard desire sayed like "I think we are no knew each other". So you're whole point is that it doesn't work for you, therefore no one should use them. I can't argue with logic like that. I'm done with opinion openers even though they've worked for me. Thank you for your insight.

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Author:	Crypton [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:30 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: You can say almost what you want, but never say a question or a compliment to girl. Everything you say here is correct except never say a question or a compliment to a girl. Quote: You can say almost what you want, but never say a question or a compliment to girl. But everyone has been telling to compliment women. Even Mark Manson tells one should make honest compliments.