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Author:  Mike2015 [ Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:19 am ]
Post subject:  In the club,Why the girls move away from me when approaching
Ok guys, first of all I smell good so don't try to say it's my smell that scares them or something haha

It was a very strange night yesterday, went to a new city for spending the weekend and decided to go to the club alone for some hunting;-)

But what happened was wierd .. I always aim towards girls who seems to be alone as it is easier for me to score with them so I approached around 10 girls and it goes like this..

I start dancing, they come dance near me .. I put my arm around her waist and say hi!

EVERY single girl just look at me with a poker face and walk away immediately.

So what is wrong guys?
Author:  WillEdward [ Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: In the club,Why the girls move away from me when approac
Your approach is too aggressive. Grabbing a girl by the waist and saying Hi is too fast of escalation. You need to make eye contact with the girl first and gauge her response. If she doesn't look away immediately, but holds eye contact with you, or if holds eye contact then breaks away but then holds eye contact again, then you have a pretty good chance of opening her on the dance floor. There are a few ways you can open a girl on the dance floor at this point. You can then either offer your hand so she grabs onto to it, or you can do high five into a spin, or you can just grab her hand and make her do a spin. You have to calibrate and gauge which one will have the best response. The high five move is the safest one, but just grabbing her hand and start leading her is more confident.
Author:  Mike2015 [ Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: In the club,Why the girls move away from me when approac
Thanks mate for this reply, u r right. In the past I used to look first for signs of attraction. However, just few days ago I started watching keys to the vip on YouTube and damn these blokes are approaching any girl and score! And most of them did the waist thing so I decided to give it a try.


On the other hand, The club I've been there last night were full of 20ish years old girls like 21 - 23 yrs old (personally I like that age) I'm 29 yrs old myself but I look early 30ish...maybe this also make them feel intimidated as well??
Author:  WillEdward [ Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: In the club,Why the girls move away from me when approac
Don't worry about the age thing, if anything, it builds more attraction being older and more mature. It's not worth focusing on things you can't change anyway. Just work on improving your approaches and calibration. The waist thing may work in some situations if you have the right frame and vibe going, but you are just casting a very small net. Opening with eye contact first and leading her into a spin is most efficient way to open.
Author:  PatrickAnanda [ Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: In the club,Why the girls move away from me when approac
Quote:
Ok guys, first of all I smell good so don't try to say it's my smell that scares them or something haha

It was a very strange night yesterday, went to a new city for spending the weekend and decided to go to the club alone for some hunting;-)

But what happened was wierd .. I always aim towards girls who seems to be alone as it is easier for me to score with them so I approached around 10 girls and it goes like this..

I start dancing, they come dance near me .. I put my arm around her waist and say hi!

EVERY single girl just look at me with a poker face and walk away immediately.

So what is wrong guys?
Hey brother,

Based solely on the way you write, you have an ego problem.

Terms like 'hunting' and 'approaching' are causing you harm.

Women want to be desired

If you understand that, you've understood everything.
Yes, believe it or not, women WANT to be wanted. They want to be wanted by a man who owns his desires - who goes after what he wants without apology. However, they want to be wanted by a man who genuinely WANTS them.

What does this mean?

It seems obvious no? You want women for self-aggrandizement. Your purpose is inherently selfish - you don't care who this woman is, she's just a hole that you could fuck. And that's well and good, but on top of that you don't even own it.

I'm not saying to fall in love with every woman you meet. And going on the way you are will give you SOME RESULTS, but they will be inconsistent, few and far between, and not the quality you truly want.

Why? Because you do not own yourself.
You are too focused on building an identity as someone who is 'good with women', as a 'pickup artist' and so you are ignoring the simple fact that you are already good with women.

All she wants is to be desired. Look her in the eye and let her feel that you want her - more than you care about what others think, more than you want to brag to your friends, more than you even care about yourself.

No woman can be mad at a man who just likes her.

I wish you success my friend
Mack
Author:  ChocolatePUA [ Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: In the club,Why the girls move away from me when approac
Quote:
Ok guys, first of all I smell good so don't try to say it's my smell that scares them or something haha

It was a very strange night yesterday, went to a new city for spending the weekend and decided to go to the club alone for some hunting;-)

But what happened was wierd .. I always aim towards girls who seems to be alone as it is easier for me to score with them so I approached around 10 girls and it goes like this..

I start dancing, they come dance near me .. I put my arm around her waist and say hi!

EVERY single girl just look at me with a poker face and walk away immediately.

So what is wrong guys?
Eye contact first. Get them to acknowledge your presence before escalating into more physical stuff like putting arms around their waist

Edit: I got ninja'd by WillEdward. Good advice in that post.
Author:  Black Phantom [ Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: In the club,Why the girls move away from me when approac
Quote:
Ok guys, first of all I smell good so don't try to say it's my smell that scares them or something haha

It was a very strange night yesterday, went to a new city for spending the weekend and decided to go to the club alone for some hunting;-)
This is your first clue to what you're doing wrong.

Your mindset is that of a HUNTER. You go out and you try to hunt women.

But women are like cats - if you start chasing them, no matter if they are your cat - they will run.

So instead of having the mindset of a "hunter", develop the mindset of a FISHERMAN.

Go out and make your intention to set a bait - which is you - and allow women to come to you.

I'll explain how below, but first let's take a look at some other things you said.
Quote:
But what happened was wierd .. I always aim towards girls who seems to be alone as it is easier for me to score with them so I approached around 10 girls and it goes like this..

I start dancing, they come dance near me .. I put my arm around her waist and say hi!

EVERY single girl just look at me with a poker face and walk away immediately.

So what is wrong guys?
What's wrong is you STINK. Not with body odour, like you mentioned in the beginning,
but with NEEDINESS.

Women RUN away from needy guys. Guys who give ALL of themselves too soon and want something from
women too soon.

When you say "Hi" to a girl, don't hope for something to happen. She can feel what you mean behind
your "Hi"

Chris Rock, the comedian says that every single thing that a guy does for a girl, is some way of saying,

"Want some dick?"

So when you grind and smile and say Hi, you are basically saying "Hi, want some dick?"

Watch him here:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xJHJAPIx_I[/youtube]

Is this making sense?

I mentioned above to aim for the FISHERMAN mindset.

Let me give you couple of pointers into how you can go about it:

1. First, go out with an intention to have FUN, and give a woman a FUN experience with you. Don't
go out with an intention to fuck.

2. When you dance, instead of imagining pulling the girl into your cage, imagine
she is there to HAVE FUN, dance, drink, smile, laugh, and try to support that experience
through being FUN yourself. Not funny, but fun.

Dance in a weird way that's out of beat - just for fun of it. Be overly relaxed and comfortable.

Make fun of other people. Feel like you're at home.

3. Don't be a bitch. Don't "Hope" for something to happen, but focus on being her authority. Tell
her to give you her hand. Point at her while keeping a straight face and tell her to come to you. Tell
her stuff like, "You're in trouble now" and "You shouldn't be in this club".

Do stuff that is counter-intuitive. If normal guys would want to ask her question about where she's from,
do the opposite and say to her, "It's time for you to ask me where I'm from and all the boring questions..."

Get it?

In essence, do the OPPOSITE of what you're doing right now. I promise you you'll have women respond
to you in a totally different way.

Good luck :)
Author:  Mike2015 [ Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: In the club,Why the girls move away from me when approac
Quote:
Don't worry about the age thing, if anything, it builds more attraction being older and more mature. It's not worth focusing on things you can't change anyway. Just work on improving your approaches and calibration. The waist thing may work in some situations if you have the right frame and vibe going, but you are just casting a very small net. Opening with eye contact first and leading her into a spin is most efficient way to open.
Thanks mate, I just have 2 questions here to understand more from you,

1- What do you mean by Calibration?

2- How to know that I have the right frame and vibe going?
Author:  WillEdward [ Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: In the club,Why the girls move away from me when approac
Calibration means your ability to know what to do in a situation or interaction based on your social intuition from all of your experiences out in the field. This will come with time when you begin to see patterns and understand what actions will work or won't work (like grabbing a girl by the waist on the open) and what response will they create in her.

To do some of the more ballsy and aggressive moves, you need to be confident and certain in your frame AND feel the vibe from her (her interest towards you, eye contact, body language, etc.) and follow through with absolute faith that you will be successful. This also ties into calibration and instinctively feeling on a subconscious level that you know what you are doing and that she will enjoy it.
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