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Author:  nrjose27 [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Used horse girl opener, got unexpected result
I've heard about Brad P.'s "Horse Girl" opener and decided to try it out for myself, but got an unexpected result.

To simplify Brad P.'s opener (for those who aren't familiar), I ask a girl if she likes horses, then tell her a story about how there was this girl back in the day who used to act like a horse during recess since she liked horses so much. Thus she was dubbed the weird horse girl. To conclude the opener, I'd ask the girl if she could forgive me for teasing her.

At this point, I was prepared for an "I forgive you" from the HB and we'd hug it out, but instead, she wouldn't forgive me because she doesn't support bullying and all that stuff despite the fact that this story was totally made up! Either this girl was being unnecessarily serious or I tripped up on my delivery. idk which one.

How could I recover from the opener when the girl says that she doesn't want to forgive me?
Author:  Miami_J [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Used horse girl opener, got unexpected result
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I've heard about Brad P.'s "Horse Girl" opener and decided to try it out for myself, but got an unexpected result.

To simplify Brad P.'s opener (for those who aren't familiar), I ask a girl if she likes horses, then tell her a story about how there was this girl back in the day who used to act like a horse during recess since she liked horses so much. Thus she was dubbed the weird horse girl. To conclude the opener, I'd ask the girl if she could forgive me for teasing her.

At this point, I was prepared for an "I forgive you" from the HB and we'd hug it out, but instead, she wouldn't forgive me because she doesn't support bullying and all that stuff despite the fact that this story was totally made up! Either this girl was being unnecessarily serious or I tripped up on my delivery. idk which one.

How could I recover from the opener when the girl says that she doesn't want to forgive me?
I think using another opener would be better for you or even forgetting canned openers altogether.
Author:  WillEdward [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Used horse girl opener, got unexpected result
I agree with miami, drop the canned openers and focus on more situational. It'll allow you to be more present and think off the cuff.
Author:  DrewDating [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:27 am ]
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I agree with miami, drop the canned openers and focus on more situational. It'll allow you to be more present and think off the cuff.
ii would do that or give general compliments. everyone loves a compliment
Author:  nrjose27 [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Used horse girl opener, got unexpected result
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I agree with miami, drop the canned openers and focus on more situational. It'll allow you to be more present and think off the cuff.
I suck at using situational openers, to be honest. I'm just not that creative with my openers, which is why I prefer to use canned material. I see them as "training wheels" until they are no longer needed. My mind isn't just that fluid yet.
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ii would do that or give general compliments. everyone loves a compliment
I could use compliments, but where would that leave me? If I compliment on a girl's shoes, I'd have to cut that thread and start another since talking about shoes or any other article of clothing wouldn't create attraction towards me
Author:  Dragula [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Used horse girl opener, got unexpected result
You can get rejected with compliments too, you can get rejected doing canned, you can get rejected being 'natural'.

The point is, you're going to drive yourself crazy making a thread each time you get rejected and it is just easy to blame the opener. Any opener works when you're in state and giving out good vibes all round. Girls feel what you feel, you can not hide from it.

If you feel chodey like everybody feels at the start of the night, then the girls will be repulsed by it, but later on in the night when you have bruised your ego, your balls have been on the line and you're just on fire, then you can literally do anything and it works, one of the craziest things i did recently was spin a girl round (she had a corset on) and yanked out her boob and had a nibble of her nipple. She thought was the most confident mofo in the world, but little she know at the start of the night that all the girls were being repulsed by me.

YOU WILL GET REJECTED. Don't take it personally, not everyone will dig you. Just focus your energy on the people that do appreciate your effort to meet them.
Author:  Versalis [ Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Used horse girl opener, got unexpected result
https://soundcloud.com/the-pu-shrine/horsegirl-opener

Key takeaway "High risk, high reward". Pisses off more girls than like it, and that's with perfect delivery.
Author:  CountRedRover [ Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Used horse girl opener, got unexpected result
I plan on doing this tomorrow.
You could also tie in the cube routine into this. Based on what color horse she likes determines what she sees in her ideal lover - based on color psychology & Kokology - building up more comfort etc.
Author:  nrjose27 [ Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Used horse girl opener, got unexpected result
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YOU WILL GET REJECTED. Don't take it personally, not everyone will dig you. Just focus your energy on the people that do appreciate your effort to meet them.
My problem isn't really about rejection; rather, it's more about how react to situations where I stay alpha. I can already deal with situations whenever girls act rude towards me. I remember opening up this old lady for shits n' giggles and she was the one who acted hostile towards me! Reframing rejections as educational experiences helps me avoid any negative self-talk and continue on with my pickup.

In my opinion, using the same canned material on different girls as often as possible will allow me to predict their responses in advance so I could calibrate. In this case, a girl refusing to accept my apology from the weird horse girl is a contingency I'll prepare for later, so instead of asking her why she wouldn't forgive me (BAD on my part bc I'm using logic on the girl), I could do/say something else that's considered more alpha. The more often I use canned material, the quicker my alpha responses, and the sooner I can do away with canned stuff and switch to situational openers. But again, that's just my opinion.
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https://soundcloud.com/the-pu-shrine/horsegirl-opener

Key takeaway "High risk, high reward". Pisses off more girls than like it, and that's with perfect delivery.
Yeah, I was thinking that my delivery was off. Better work on it.
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You could also tie in the cube routine into this. Based on what color horse she likes determines what she sees in her ideal lover - based on color psychology & Kokology - building up more comfort etc.
That's a good idea. Maybe this could be a shit test from the guy bc if a girl does tell you her favorite colored horse, you could then bust her balls saying, "Aha! I knew it! You ARE the weird horse girl!! I thought we had something special, being completely honest with each other's feelings! I can never trust again! Haha" *light slap across her face* Now the girl has to do things to earn your trust again :twisted:
Author:  Dragula [ Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Used horse girl opener, got unexpected result
A true alpha doesn't need think of alpha responses nor do they give a shit if an old woman is passive aggressive.
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