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Author:  OhMyItsRai [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Quality vs Quantity?
So I've seen a few people talk about how they approach a bunch of woman with either good or bad results. Why on earth would you want to approach hundreds of woman in a day or a week? Besides taking in large amounts of data it seems not that great. My thought process mostly has been a couple or a few approaches to woman I already know or don't know a week so I actually have time to live life, learn from mistakes and actually absorb what went right or wrong, and study other PUA stuff in the meantime.

Sure there are pro's and con's to both tactics, but your thoughts?
Author:  Wyodaniel [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:22 pm ]
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I'm definitely on the "quality" side of this debate; I don't bother doing an approach unless A. it's a girl who makes me say "Oh damn!" when I look at her and B. I'm going to give it 100%. No halfassing!
Author:  DrewDating [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:28 am ]
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So I've seen a few people talk about how they approach a bunch of woman with either good or bad results. Why on earth would you want to approach hundreds of woman in a day or a week? Besides taking in large amounts of data it seems not that great. My thought process mostly has been a couple or a few approaches to woman I already know or don't know a week so I actually have time to live life, learn from mistakes and actually absorb what went right or wrong, and study other PUA stuff in the meantime.

Sure there are pro's and con's to both tactics, but your thoughts?
i sometimes approach 50 sets in a night just to warm up

then i get into serious business

to me its like stretching before a workout. it helps get rid of approach anxiety for the night and gives you the mentality that "there is more than enough to go around" and when i do get rejected it doesn't blow all the wind out of my sail.

also, if you are in a venue and preopen all the sets it can create massive socialproof and mirror exposure - people will sometimes notice you talking to all these people and think "holy crap this guy must be someone important, he knows everyone" (social proof) and after you are done preopening you go back around and reopen those people and they will be much more friendly and feel more comfortable (mirror exposure)

hope that answers some questions
Author:  OhMyItsRai [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:11 am ]
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So I've seen a few people talk about how they approach a bunch of woman with either good or bad results. Why on earth would you want to approach hundreds of woman in a day or a week? Besides taking in large amounts of data it seems not that great. My thought process mostly has been a couple or a few approaches to woman I already know or don't know a week so I actually have time to live life, learn from mistakes and actually absorb what went right or wrong, and study other PUA stuff in the meantime.

Sure there are pro's and con's to both tactics, but your thoughts?
i sometimes approach 50 sets in a night just to warm up

then i get into serious business

to me its like stretching before a workout. it helps get rid of approach anxiety for the night and gives you the mentality that "there is more than enough to go around" and when i do get rejected it doesn't blow all the wind out of my sail.

also, if you are in a venue and preopen all the sets it can create massive socialproof and mirror exposure - people will sometimes notice you talking to all these people and think "holy crap this guy must be someone important, he knows everyone" (social proof) and after you are done preopening you go back around and reopen those people and they will be much more friendly and feel more comfortable (mirror exposure)

hope that answers some questions
That's a very solid strategy for a club or something with similar dynamics, I mostly do daygame SPAM so I was more so referring to that although I obviously didn't mention it. But very insightful and good tactic is good.
Author:  oceanx [ Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Quality vs Quantity?
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So I've seen a few people talk about how they approach a bunch of woman with either good or bad results. Why on earth would you want to approach hundreds of woman in a day or a week? Besides taking in large amounts of data it seems not that great. My thought process mostly has been a couple or a few approaches to woman I already know or don't know a week so I actually have time to live life, learn from mistakes and actually absorb what went right or wrong, and study other PUA stuff in the meantime.

Sure there are pro's and con's to both tactics, but your thoughts?
If you're just starting out and you want to get good at sparking the interest of women it's important to "practice" with a good amount of them so you can understand the commonalities of things that work for you and things that don't. Plus the girls love having a chat with a cool dude such as yourself, so it's fun to do anyway.

I may do one or two 'throwaway' approaches to get in the flow of the day but after that I try to make it count, I make a presentation to the girl and see where it leads.
Author:  dtrak [ Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Quality vs Quantity?
Here's my take on Quality vs. Quantity after approaching thousands of women and gettin a ton of results.

You want to stride for quality women, quality relationships, quality lifestyle

But quantity is neccessary for a noob who would other wise not know how to achieve quality

So for a begginer i'd say get alot of approaches under your belt, gain alot of experience(quantity)
once you are comfortable and tired of mediocore lays move on to quality

The goal is quality but to get to quality i'd suggest fucking with quantity

The problem becomes when a dude stays stuck on quantity and fucks up his life trying to achieve a ridiculous laycount

thats lame.

Pick up should be used to ENRICH your life, build a quality life filled with love/women/relationships you CHOOSE.

Some of us are so fucked up we need to practice, just like when i started i was fucked up in the head, had only slept with like 1 girl, now i got my shit together and moved on, living a life of quality and success.

That should be the ultimate goal.

I'd say it takes about a year or two of going hard to really master the basics of seduction and move the fuck on to a quality life.

although i wouldnt disagree with doing both at the same time. Quality and Quantity.

Thats my 2 cents

Peace**
Author:  geeklovelife.com [ Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:48 pm ]
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Always quality.
It's better to have one good girl who truly makes you happy than 50 one-night girls just for fun.
Author:  fudge_88 [ Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:03 pm ]
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Quality is quality. It's the manner in which you use the quantity. Quality is harder to get individually, but quantity take just as much effort as you are pounding the pavement going hard in the paint with every girl you see. The quantity will give you short term gratification, but the quality give you long term success.

Call me the riddler :?:

Basically, they are both equally difficult. Hard work vs Skills. One will grant you sort term results (smashing different cheeks on the regular), but there is always a need to do more. The other will grant you fulfillment.

Like others said, train on the quantity first to build up the confidence and skills to obtain the quality.
Author:  dtrak [ Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:13 pm ]
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Theres this dude who was a basketball player back in the day, his name is chamberlain or sum shit i forgot, but his nickname was "20,000"
because he claimed to have slept with alot of women, you know what he said in an interview?

He said, he slept with alot of women yes, but guess what, he said

"Nothing compares to sleeping with the girl you love, a thousand diffrent ways"

and thats boss shit.

*Peace*

oh and whoever said sleeping with alot of women is hard? nah, with a year of good PUA training i can get you to sleep with a shit load of girls easy as fuck.

Finding a quality girl is hard? Hell na, that just takes the proper mindset and patience.

People got shit twisted. Getting girls aint that complicated fellas, its unfurtunate this society got our minds so fucked up. With something as basic as sex, a natural human instinct.

I'm Distraught.
Author:  meetjoeblack [ Thu Dec 25, 2014 7:24 pm ]
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So I've seen a few people talk about how they approach a bunch of woman with either good or bad results. Why on earth would you want to approach hundreds of woman in a day or a week?
Options. So, I mentioned doing some PU. Meeting a pretty young with who I deem to be quality beyond attractiveness. Instead of sitting by the phone, I continue to do PU, and meet more. I had pulled a girl back one night who wanted to do cocaine in the toilet and have a full on gangbang. Deem her more the quantity type. In the process of PU you meet women who disgust you but, you are not suppose to be with them so, it is okay. Another pull was with a girl who wanted to grab "coffee" which resulted in going back to her place to "watch a movie." She went on about saying how she wants children now before proceeding to try and fuck me. I am okay with fooling around with her but, nothing more. Sex would be a liability. She wants to get pregnant noted by her Freudian slip or parapraxis.

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Besides taking in large amounts of data it seems not that great. My thought process mostly has been a couple or a few approaches to woman I already know or don't know a week so I actually have time to live life, learn from mistakes and actually absorb what went right or wrong, and study other PUA stuff in the meantime.
As I have said and many others as well, PU is not the best system for meeting women but, nor is the societal norm, "just wait." Pay for dinners, buy her diamonds, marry her and swear away half your shit. Online dating is another resource that is for passive dating role typically suitable to women. PU is more male oriented being the active dating role pushing interactions and engaging women you do not know.

I don't study PU. I am more into learning about life, lifestyle, reading books on success like Schwarzenegger's recent book. Arnold says pretty much everything in life comes down to reps. You want to be Mr Olympia, its about reps. You want to be a movie star, its about reps. You want to be great at PU, its about reps.

There was mindsets revealed in the book through quotes like, "in my mind, I had already won." There was others where he spoke about his thoughts the day of Mr Olympia Competition that was something along the lines of, "Gimme my trophy and get off my stage."

Where we have eliminated choirs in our society, Arnold would be exercising as a youth and farming in order to get breakfast. Again, it was more reps. In our society, we have this mindset of the east way, online dating, why approach lots of women? Why not take the easy way out?

Other things I do: youtube channels like Tai Lopez https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QezeYunGSKs
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Sure there are pro's and con's to both tactics, but your thoughts?
PU is not the most effective way of meeting women but, it is better then not taking action or attempting to use the female passive dating role. It is subjective. What works for you?

I am focused on working towards financial independence. Whether or not I get there is irrelevant but, the goal of freedom is in my focus. Even falling short means, rich or wealthy which is not a bad lifestyle. The thing I would like to do is meet proper women prior to getting there other wise, I would not trust them. Ideally, I would like to meet a woman who has her shit handled, attractive, sweet, nurturing, has her house, resources, six figure income, and sees me on the way up. I wont ditch or drop her when I get to where I am going. Again, I would prefer to meet that before getting to where I am going.

I read a lot of Anthony Robbins, I watch Jariek Robbins channel. I watch the breakthrough series and TedTalks. I want to be the best and strongest I can be in all aspects of life. PU is just some tool I use. Books, youtube channels, internet, PU is all a tool. There is no one way that will take you to the promise land or get you to your goal in and of itself.
Author:  fudge_88 [ Thu Dec 25, 2014 7:24 pm ]
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Equally hard, equally easy. It's just the manner in which you look at it. They are both equal in effort was my point.
Author:  kholdo [ Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:12 am ]
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I totally agree with andy when he says it can be a good strategy to display social proof when you preopen several sets just as a stretching before the real workout.. But don't forget that choosing the quantity side can also be a solution to evacuate the approach anxiety. Those who are beginning in seducing women are often shy and need to persuade themselves that approaching is not that difficult.
Author:  meetjoeblack [ Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:01 am ]
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I totally agree with andy when he says it can be a good strategy to display social proof when you preopen several sets just as a stretching before the real workout.. But don't forget that choosing the quantity side can also be a solution to evacuate the approach anxiety. Those who are beginning in seducing women are often shy and need to persuade themselves that approaching is not that difficult.
I pulled a woman back recently who wanted toilet cocaine and a gangbang. Another wanted children mentioned during a Freudian slip during "coffee" or "movie night." I agree with you. It can be an excuse so, I always do PU. I may even like a particular woman but, I continue to do PU while single. I am disgusted by certain types of women. I do not value the Kim K. types but, most males will value her based upon her looks rather then, seeking other qualities, talents, and character.
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